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Old 04-30-2007, 03:57 PM
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They know not to publically endorse nutter it would be bad for him.
It's no secret that the Republicans approached Nutter, Evans and Knox before the campaign started and tried to get one of them to switch parties and run as a Republican. I'm not sure how that has anything to do with an endorsement of Nutter because they "want to see a minority frisked on the news." If you think political parties base their decisions on such stupid things as wanting to see minorities frisked on the news, you've got some learning to do.
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To all voting for nutter,who are democrats,All campaign funding is from republicans,He is a republican,This is george w bush crime policy and it will happen.Let me just remind you also of the slippery slope,Do you want to live in a police state,All im saying is it starts in bad areas,Then it goes everywere,Pretty soon youll have a blinking police camera and a policeman on your block.If youve never been frisked,It is the worst feeling in the world,When your treated like an animal you tend to act like one too.
So, despite being registered as a Democrat, serving as a Democrat, and running as a Democrat, Michael Nutter is actually a Republican?

Stop-and-frisk is completely constitutional if implemented correctly, and has lowered violent crime in other cities. Honestly, if low income blacks don't like the idea of frisking, I'd ask if they prefer a high murder rate.
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Old 04-30-2007, 04:06 PM
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It's no secret that the Republicans approached Nutter, Evans and Knox before the campaign started and tried to get one of them to switch parties and run as a Republican. I'm not sure how that has anything to do with an endorsement of Nutter because they "want to see a minority frisked on the news." If you think political parties base their decisions on such stupid things as wanting to see minorities frisked on the news, you've got some learning to do.
I guess i should have made my sarcasm more clear.
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Old 04-30-2007, 04:07 PM
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To all voting for nutter,who are democrats,All campaign funding is from republicans,He is a republican,This is george w bush crime policy and it will happen.Let me just remind you also of the slippery slope,Do you want to live in a police state,All im saying is it starts in bad areas,Then it goes everywere,Pretty soon youll have a blinking police camera and a policeman on your block.If youve never been frisked,It is the worst feeling in the world,When your treated like an animal you tend to act like one too.
I'll take the camera and police officer on my block, I'm not doing anything to be worried about, so why worry?

I've been stopped and frisked by police before, I had done nothing wrong and knew it, but I matched the description of someone who had been stealing bikes, and I happened to be cutting across a desolate area in a hurry when the cops rolled up. But again, I had done nothing wrong.

It didn't feel that bad, maybe what you mean to say is that being frisked when you're up to no good is the worst feeling in the world. I've got think that getting shot feels a lot worse, and considering that more then one out of every 1000 residents of Philly got shot just last year, I'll vote for the frisking. I agree that it won’t work by itself, Safe Streets proved that, but it was successful for a limited period. We need to work on some long term solutions, but I’d rather do that while it’s a little safer to walk the streets.
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I'll take the camera and police officer on my block, I'm not doing anything to be worried about, so why worry?

I've been stopped and frisked by police before, I had done nothing wrong and knew it, but I matched the description of someone who had been stealing bikes, and I happened to be cutting across a desolate area in a hurry when the cops rolled up. But again, I had done nothing wrong.

It didn't feel that bad, maybe what you mean to say is that being frisked when you're up to no good is the worst feeling in the world. I've got think that getting shot feels a lot worse, and considering that more then one out of every 1000 residents of Philly got shot just last year, I'll vote for the frisking. I agree that it won’t work by itself, Safe Streets proved that, but it was successful for a limited period. We need to work on some long term solutions, but I’d rather do that while it’s a little safer to walk the streets.
I still want my bike back,And i dont consider the 600,000 people locked up for smoking a blunt on the weekends violent criminals.

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I still want my bike back,And i dont consider the 600,000 people locked up for smoking a blunt on the weekends violent criminals.
Are you really claiming that there are 600,000 people incarcerated for smoking blunts?

Your argument is all over the place, and somehow altogether nowhere.
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I live near 17th and dauphin ,Ive been here through op cold turkey,and the last ten operations and were are we know.
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THOSE WHO WOULD CHOOSE SECURITY OVER LIBERTY DESERVE NEITHER
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K Dope,
Those who fail to recognize that you can't have liberty without security are unrealistic ideologues.

We're illustrating how liberty without security reverts into anarchy.

But I'm not really so much interested in debating philosophy, I'm just interested in lowering the number of shootings per year (over 2000!) and getting some of the illegal guns of the street so that the law abiding residents of the city have some liberty.
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I don't know why people are responding to this guy, he's obviously a troll trying to stir things up.

The actual topic deserves a serious conversation, something that's not going to happen with a clown throwing around all sorts of racial epithets and baseless accusations.
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