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Old 12-12-2005, 02:31 AM
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I lived there from 1986 to 1997. During that time I went to St. Helena's High School (in 1986) Went to Cardinal Dougherty High School in 1994 to 1997. I would say it was a really nice neighborhood up until 1993. I remembered my early elementary school years kids would come up to the Movie Theather and steal the posters on there. I never been in that movie theather. Then around 1989 that movie theather was bought out by Koreans. They convert that into a Korean Grocery store. The food there was really expensive as hell. Walking home from school students would talk through that alley in the back. They would refer to it as the "Gook Alley".

Up until the late 80's, early 90's was when the neighborhood bagan to change. The Koreans started opening up stores and by the late 90's you can see alot of bad things happening. People started selling their houses. Alot of houses on the black got robbed. In fact, after my neighbors house got burned down in 1996 every single house on the black got robbed or almost bulgarized. One lady got her house robbed twice. My neighbor got robbed and moved out of that neighborhood b/c sh was so terrified. That is why my family moved out of that neighboorhood.
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Old 12-12-2005, 09:17 AM
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I lived there from 1986 to 1997. During that time I went to St. Helena's High School (in 1986) Went to Cardinal Dougherty High School in 1994 to 1997. I would say it was a really nice neighborhood up until 1993. I remembered my early elementary school years kids would come up to the Movie Theather and steal the posters on there. I never been in that movie theather. Then around 1989 that movie theather was bought out by Koreans. They convert that into a Korean Grocery store. The food there was really expensive as hell. Walking home from school students would talk through that alley in the back. They would refer to it as the "Gook Alley".

Up until the late 80's, early 90's was when the neighborhood bagan to change. The Koreans started opening up stores and by the late 90's you can see alot of bad things happening. People started selling their houses. Alot of houses on the black got robbed. In fact, after my neighbors house got burned down in 1996 every single house on the black got robbed or almost bulgarized. One lady got her house robbed twice. My neighbor got robbed and moved out of that neighborhood b/c sh was so terrified. That is why my family moved out of that neighboorhood.
This is an interesting perspective. You are saying that there is a direct correlation between the influx of Korean residents (or shops) and the increase in crime in Olney.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:30 PM
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That's funny 'cause there are a lot of Koreans who have moved out of Olney and fled to Cheltenham or the NE 'cause of the increase in crime...
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Old 06-30-2006, 08:03 AM
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I thought Upper Darby facing Millbourne was Koreatown. :o

Had no idea there were (was) a large Korean population in Olney--I didn't notice it any driving through the area from time to time.

Would like to see a new PD precint open up there and Olney get some more park space and streetscaping.
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:37 PM
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Didn't the korean business mostly move to Castor Ave in Castor Gardens?

Olney...much like Summerdale and Frankford are in for a long ugly spell until the rest of the city rebounds..

All of thos neighborhoods suffered and will continue to suffer since a huge chunk of local employment was removed and replaced with BS retail jobs...

(Sears, Depo, related industry around Adams)

Rising Sun Ave...looks like a steel curtain after dark...black after block of high security metal fronts...


Alll goes back to the city and their lack of concern over evey single shopping Ave outside of CC and Manyunk dying.


For all the money they are coughing up to keep businesses and residential (abatement, infrastucture for the large res development)


...they should be able to kick some real money up for streetscape for all the Aves.. (that would possibly stop the decline and even bring back such corridors as Rising Sun, Castor, Lower Frankkford, Lancaster, Baltimore, 5th Street..etc.)

and not just give it to local CDC's to waste and hide.
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There are still a lot in Olney too, along with Cambodians and Vietnamese now.
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Old 06-30-2006, 03:25 PM
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I've just stumbled upon this thread about Olney.....

Some of the posts brought back so many memories for me - I was born and grew up there, went to st Helena's, Cardinal Dougherty (class of 1983) etc. That neighborhood has so much to offer kids and their families. We moved out in the mid 1980's and as others have said much has changed in that neighborhood.

Upon moving back to Philadelphia last year I took an afternoon off and went driving through Olney. It was very sad and run down as compared to the vital area it was during my childhood in the 1970's. I couldn't believe it when I saw 5th Street, it looks like a scene from a third world country!!
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:11 PM
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Welcome home. I returned after being gone for almost 20 years also. I too left Olney in the mid 80s. I only lived there for 2 years but I loved it. If I hadn't have left the Philadelphia area because of my job, I was thinking of buying there. Just about the same time I guess many other people were planning on leaving. Real estate prices then were very low compared to comparable neighborhoods in the NE. I guess that's what ultimately causes an area to decline. Lack of demand that is. The low prices were an indication that people didn't really want to buy there, even when the place appeared to be desireable.
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:29 PM
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Thanks for the welcome Geno.

Re: Real estate prices back in the 1980's WERE very low, a row home could be had for less than 50k.... IMO there are still many bargains around the city as long as you are familiar with the neighborhoods and are comfortable where you choose to live.

You mention that the Northeast area was higher in value 20 yrs ago, that to me was always the case until now because the NE seems to be experiencing a mass exodous in the past 10 years -- similar to what happened in Olney during the late 80's + 90's.

Most of my family originally came from North Philadelphia (West Allegheney and Olney), and like many other families kept moving up towards the Northeast and finally out of the city alltogether. I have a couple of relatives nearing 90 yrs old, when they talk about their old neighborhoods I tell them (halfway serious) that someday when I reach their age North Philadelphia will be THE place to live!! It's already starting to happen with Northern Liberties and will probably continue with Girard Ave and points North.
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:04 AM
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This is an interesting perspective. You are saying that there is a direct correlation between the influx of Korean residents (or shops) and the increase in crime in Olney.
It's interesting to note where the Asian people choose to open up their corner stores. In the worst neighborhoods possible.
Why do they do that? Don't they know they're way more likely to get held up and killed than not?
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