I'm sorry...I'm having a hard time following.

So...you don't like Bush? Hmph.

I'd have never known. Maybe if you started another thread expressing this, people would get it.

Why do you keep reading this thread then? I'm sorry you are an apologist for Bush or just an apathetic citizen or both....so how many threads did you start back in 03 saying how much you wanted to give Bush fellatio or sodomy because he was chasing down the evil doers and protecting Ameri"K"a?

Ten or eleven

Seriously though, I'm not an apologist and should probably be even more upset than you are, as I voted for him and he went on to make a mockery out of me, every one of his voters and the Republican party as a whole. I'm still kind of a political newbie (read my posts...it's probably obvious), so I'm rolling with the punches as I become less politically gullible (honestly though...Kerry?), just as I suspect every voter for "hope" and "change" will be doing in four years (honestly though...McCain?).

I'm half-interested in the thread, half busting balls. But really...we all know that no one likes him. I have yet to meet one person in real life who says, "Eh...he ain't that bad. I kinda like his policies and think he's doing a bang up job."

I think it may be the only issue that both sides can agree on...no one likes him. Not republicans, not democrats, not Phillyblog, not Philadelphia, not me and not you.

The whole thread seemed to be an exercise in futility meant to invite my type of interaction or at least draw out confrontation with a courageous Bushite, which was inevitably never going to happen. It's a Pat-on-the-Back Fest for people who don't like him and never did.

Congrats...you're all sages. Now, let's move on and figure out who's going to screw us the least in '08 and beyond.

Fair enough....I see your points...the scary thing however is that he is not finished...so it's hard to move on ...you can't be neutral on a moving train as Howard Zinn would say..especially one that may be on a collision course with Iran...

OK...friends again?


Where'd the "attacking Iran" thread go? Am I making that up in my head or just looking in the wrong spots?

Either way, I foresee an Osirik-type attack on Iran's facilities, if any. I don't even think Bush has the balls to start another conflict, and I sure as hell doubt ANYONE would back him if he did. It will send oil in a harder tailspin (can you tailspin up?) than it already is. An attack on Israel, which is imminent according to Iran's own rhetoric, would surely do the same though. So the justification as I see it in many peoples' eyes is that attacking Iran would make things worse for us, the economy and the Middle East (and of course, the death and destruction). Not preventing them from attacking Israel though would make things worse for us, the economy and the Middle East (and of course, the death and destruction). Damned if you do...

I think the best we can hope for is rational Iranians finally saying, 'enough is enough'. I have no doubt this is going to get a lot hairier before it gets better though.

(ick...nevermind...I found that thread )

I'll introduce you to my husband and his siblings and their spouses. None of them have crossed over to the Dark Side. My husband is just being stubborn only because he refuses to acknowledge I've been right all along.

Just got this in the email...

Dear Ezra,

Our effort to hold the Bush/Cheney Administration accountable has taken another dramatic step forward. Last night, Congressman Dennis Kucinich introduced the first Articles of Impeachment ever to be introduced against President Bush. It includes, in total, thirty-five Articles detailing this Administration's blatant abuse of power. Today, I enthusiastically co-sponsored this vitally important bill.

I am grateful for Dennis' leadership on this issue and for the steadfast support that countless Americans have given to both of our efforts to redeem our government and expose the crimes of Bush and Cheney.

I will now expand my efforts to secure impeachment hearings in the Judiciary Committee for these new Articles of Impeachment against President George W. Bush.

Many of the charges against President Bush are well known – and would shock the conscience of everyday Americans if only the national media would be willing to report on these stark facts.

The Articles present a stunning narrative of offenses that have go well beyond previous crimes committed by any US chief executive. In fact no President or Vice President in history has done more to undermine our constitution.

These charges are broad, with 35 separate allegations including the deliberate lies regarding WMDs that led us to war and the approval of illegal wiretapping of American citizens. The Articles also include new allegations of high crimes – including the explicit approval for high Administration officials to violate treaties and US law banning the use of torture.

The Democratic Party gained a majority in the House and Senate due in large part to our promises to end the corruption of the Republican majority and to hold the Administration accountable to the law. This courageous bill is a crucial step towards fulfilling this promise, but – like the Articles against Cheney – they require your support to convince Democrats and open-minded Republicans to support this bold but necessary action.

Time is running out so we must work together to spread the message and apply pressure.

First, please encourage your friends and family members to sign up at WexlerWantsHearings.com – as it will allow us to keep in touch with you and speak to a wider audience. If you haven't yet put in your phone and address, please sign up again, as we will be doing telephone town halls in the near future.

Second, call your representative and urge them to support Impeachment hearings.

Finally, contact newspapers, news stations, and your favorite bloggers and urge them to report on this movement. We need to keep Impeachment a significant news story until the Democratic leadership sees the value in it.

McClellan Agrees to Testify:

I was pleased to inform you yesterday that Judiciary Committee Chairman Conyers met my call to have Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan testify under oath. I am thrilled to inform you that McClellan has agreed to testify on June 20th at 10AM. This will be the first step in what we hope will be ongoing and deepening examinations of the stark evidence and charges against both President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

Thank you for your continued passion and advocacy. Your support means so much to me.

Sincerely,

Congressman Robert Wexler

Ha...you mean admitting he's awful or all-out jumping party lines? I don't think you're going to get that out of republicans as much as an effort to salvage what's left of the word, "Republican".

Did you ever notice that for all of the things people can be wrong about, politics is one that no one EVER seems to admit defeat about?

The Articles of Impeachment... enjoy.

http://chun.afterdowningstreet.org/amomentoftruth.pdf

How sad that there is only ONE member of Congress doing what they are elected to do...uphold the U.S. Constitution.
Cicero of Roman times got killed for trying to protect the Republic....