Because those individuals would eventually put on a reality show starring John Street and Mindy Cohn of Facts of Life fame opening a sex shop in Provo, Utah.

That is much better than Frontline and Masterpiece Theatre.


PBS is the type of thing the government should be spending money on. It makes us alot smarter.

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What's a newbold?

moveon.org arrived.

the numbers are accurate,
if you add up moveon.org's crap you could not run KYW for two weeks,

it costs $1.4billion a year for PBS and NPR of which $1billion comes via federal assets and $400mill via donations.

moveon does not count anything that is not a direct cost,
so for instance the facility in which these entities are located is FREE-the product which the gov't could sell off to someone is worth NOTHING. The assets are gov't owned and operated costing nothing and worth nothing.

So the idiotic $400mill figure is for nothing more than salaries, programming and supplies -
not for equipment, real assets or anything else for that matter.





As if it all matters, the chimpanhumans will have you paying for their private entertainment no matter the cost,

BTW the guise of intellectualism is f'in hilarious.

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"How could you possibly live in the freest nation in the history of the world and only see oppression? How could you live in the least imperialist power in human history and see us as the ultimate in imperialism? How can you live in the least bigoted nation in human history ... and see racism lurking in every dark shadow?" he asked.

The comedian attributed the trend to a "rejection of all fact, reason, evidence, logic, truth, morality, and decency."

When did every single American get to veto things their government spends money on? I sure as Hell am not happy about some things that money is spent on. So, I vote in every election, I argue with really smart people---I made an exception with you---and I do my best to influence people.

PBS is a good thing. It will continue to be funded. And you will continue to be an intellectual dwarf.


You will now be Kirkboated. Good luck to you.

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What's a newbold?

Well, for starters, PBS provides several educational supplements for schools across the country, saving a ton of money to school districts.

Secondly, they provide the means for secondary education by airing college courses at night, saving colleges money while providing fulltime workers a chance at a secondary education(my wife took some 101 classes through this prgram, enabling here to work fulltime during her first year of college.

Although naysayers wish to trivialize the scenario by saying that "big bird" is subsidized-so what? I would rather have the government spending a couple bucks on a show that teaches kids their abc's rather than billions on a war going nowhere fast.

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Don't worry, I'll try to go slow for you "chimpanimal", and while you constantly dictate opine, I'll provide source information not from moveon, but from the Bush Administration.
Wrong.

"PBS and NPR" are alloted federal monies only through the Corporation For Public Broadcasting.

This year the CPB was given $420 by the federal government.
Here's a pretty excel type sheet to get your facts straight.
http://www.cpb.org/aboutcpb/financia...n/history.html
And here's their operating budget for 2008.
http://www.cpb.org/aboutcpb/leadersh...tingbudget.pdf
It plainly says "$400 million" plus "15million" in interest from the federally allocated funds.
6% is spent on system support.
5% on CPB operations.
75% on television.
25% on radio.

Once its all boiled down, a local pbs station such as whyy only gets 13% of their funding from the government-which includes state and local government funding as well.

If you don't believe in this report, blame republicans, not "moveon", since they are the ones running "PBS and NPR". Republicans outnumber democrats on the board of directors by a margin of 5 to 3. The Chair and ViceChair are also republican.
The government can't "sell the facility in which these entities are located" because it doesn't own them. Neither does "PBS and NPR", and neither does the CPB. The stations and subsequent properties are locally owned and managed.
Ahhh, now you got it! And guess what? The $400 million doesn't even partially cover what you mentioned. The "equipment, real assets or anything else for that matter" is paid for by members, donations, and corporate grants-and of course, "by viewers like you"

Kinda like the way corporate welfare has given a free lunch to publicly traded companies?
I will agree with that notion-you attempt to show yourself as an well informed person, but you are dumber than dogsh*t.

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Wow, you actually think the gov't performs best in terms of schools and prisons What are you smoking?

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Save a seal, club a liberal.

That's an odd statement from someone who claims to be a small government enthusiast.
Why should the Federal Government be doing anything related to local school districts?

Public Access Chanels and the Channels used by the Universities also serve this purpose, so it's clearly redundant.

And I'd rather have the Federal Government doing what it's assigned to do by The Constitution rather than meddling in every aspect of public life spending billions of tax payer's hard earned dollars.

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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? - Psalm 27:1

Well, its the amount spent on PBS and NPR is very small compared to other government programs.
I guess you never heard of the Department of Education? Every form of government has a tiered system on the federal, state, and local levels

Yeah-and in our area WHYY is "used by the universities". Meanwhile, College Public Access Channels are under a completely different umbrella as it is used as a utility to showcase student projects rather than substantive educational material.
I can agree on this, but when the government is using 100's of millions of dollars to place ineffective anti-drug advertising on the superbowl and pay for graffiti in my neighborhood(I'll provide a pict later), I think they might as well spend a lesser amount on proven educational tools.

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Magellan2's prescription:
ATTENTION ALL READERS...
DISCLAIMER: Alesis is a South Street business owner
(keep that in mind when reading his or her responses)

Public Television comes under the "useful arts and sciences" part of the Consititution. We have a resposibility to fund CPB/PBS. Also, John Lock recognized that certain services had to be provided for by the "governor"/government as they would never be profitible.

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All I said was that intellectuals are like the Mafia, they only kill their own.

Woody Allen
Stardust Memories

I don't know about you but I would love the municipal social services like the Fire Dept and Police to be privatized for profit.

It would be like the Colonial days when you were required to insure houses from loss of fire and affix "fire marks" to the front of the insured's property for easy identification...if you couldn't afford the insurance or didn't have the fire mark you were toast...