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Old 10-09-2004, 12:54 PM
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McGee - you can't claim the beer (check factcheck.com for the rules) if you use someone else's stuff.

And Rob - the first rule of the contest is to have a sense of humor. Sorry, its in the rules on factcheck.com.

And McGee again - I just love it when you call me snuggles. It's just sooooooooooooooooo endearing. But, as for paying for your beer, I've decided that it's my kids and grandkids (which I unfortunately do not have) who are going to be responsible for paying for your beer. Sort of like your war.

It must be tough being such staunch supporters of this war. Sort of like Kermit being green. :ok:
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McGee - you can't claim the beer (check factcheck.com for the rules) if you use someone else's stuff.

And Rob - the first rule of the contest is to have a sense of humor. Sorry, its in the rules on factcheck.com.

And McGee again - I just love it when you call me snuggles. It's just sooooooooooooooooo endearing. But, as for paying for your beer, I've decided that it's my kids and grandkids (which I unfortunately do not have) who are going to be responsible for paying for your beer. Sort of like your war.

It must be tough being such staunch supporters of this war. Sort of like Kermit being green. :ok:
:icon_be_: Welsher.

Another nice column, from Jonah Goldberg:

http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg.asp

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I'm not saying there are no good arguments against the war. I am saying that many of you don't care about the war. If Bill Clinton or Al Gore had conducted this war, you would be weeping joyously about Iraqi children going to school and women registering to vote. If this war had been successful rather than hard, John Kerry would be boasting today about how he supported it — much as he did every time it looked like the polls were moving in that direction. You may have forgotten Kerry's anti-Dean gloating when Saddam was captured, but many of us haven't. He would be saying the lack of WMDs are irrelevant and that Bush's lies were mistakes. And that's the point. I don't care if you hate George W. Bush; it's not like I love the guy. And I don't care if you opposed the war from day one. What disgusts me are those people who say toppling Saddam and fighting the terror war on their turf rather than ours is a mistake, not because these are bad ideas, but merely because your vanity cannot tolerate the notion that George W. Bush is right or that George W. Bush's rightness might cost John Kerry the election.
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I'm not saying there are no good arguments against the war. I am saying that many of you don't care about the war. If Bill Clinton or Al Gore had conducted this war, you would be weeping joyously about Iraqi children going to school and women registering to vote.
BS.

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If this war had been successful rather than hard, John Kerry would be boasting today about how he supported it — much as he did every time it looked like the polls were moving in that direction.
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merely because your vanity cannot tolerate the notion that George W. Bush is right or that George W. Bush's rightness might cost John Kerry the election.
You are insane and should be sedated so as not to cause harm to yourself or others.
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When Clinton considered it, the conservatives and the Rs all said that it was "Wag the Dog" all over again.

Democrats have not cornered the inconsistancy market.

And comeon McGee - citing Jonah. His only claim to fame was that his mother was a duplicitous bitch, pushing poor Linda Tripp and then leaving her high and dry.

Who would have heard of him otherwise - yet he got to start his career at the National Review. Buckley would have never hired the stupid little kid.
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When Clinton considered it, the conservatives and the Rs all said that it was "Wag the Dog" all over again.
Actually, I fully supported Clinton's interventions in the Balkans, though he muffed the job by giving it to the UN, who couldn't collectively spell "cat" if you spotted them the c and the t. Those Republicans who opposed him were wrong; IMO it was one of the few good Clinton moments.

"Wag the Dog" referred to the bombing of the Sudanese pharmeceutical company, I believe. I can't remember what I thought about that, truthfully.

This is all a distraction and beside the point, anyway. Because as you've just said here:

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you've ceded the point. The de facto liberal line until 2000 was that we muffed it in 91 by not going in all the way to Baghdad, and betraying the Iraqis in the process. This was changed the moment it became politically opportune to do so.

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And comeon McGee - citing Jonah. His only claim to fame was that his mother was a duplicitous bitch, pushing poor Linda Tripp and then leaving her high and dry.

Who would have heard of him otherwise - yet he got to start his career at the National Review. Buckley would have never hired the stupid little kid
This is another good trick: when you can't win on points, attack the messenger.

Yet another in the mulitplicity of good arguments for Iraq (I could do this for days, brother).

http://www.lileks.com/bleats/archive...04/101104.html

Scroll down past the bucolic country road picture.

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I love it when McGee gets on his high horse.

Attack the messinger? I read lots of conservative stuff - ranging from the Weekly Standard to more mainstream conservatives. I'm more likely to read Brookes or Safire than I am to read Krugman or Herbert at the NY Times.

And McGee - he dismisses it all.

Jonah Goldberg is a little punk who would have never been heard from if it weren't for his mom.

I won't dismiss most messingers - just Jonah.
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