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Old 05-24-2006, 05:17 AM
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http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/05/23.html#a8404

Sterling Burnett, a man who works for an organization which takes
huge amounts of money from Exxon Mobile went on "Dayside" today to
smear Al Gore. These people are beyond shameless. He compared Gore
and his new film, "An Inconvenient Truth" to the Nazi propagandist
Joseph Goebbels.

Notice how the segment ends just as Jeremy Symons was telling the
audience that Sterling is a paid, Big Oil shill. Being a Big Oil
shill isn't too popular these days.

Burnett: That's the problem. If I thought Al Gore's movie was as you
like to say, fair and balanced, I'd say, everyone should go see it,
but why go see propaganda? You don't go see Joseph Goebbels’' films
to see the truth about Nazi Germany. You don't go see Al Gore’' films
to see the truth about global warming...
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He compared the style of film making to that of Goebbels. It had nothing to with Gore's personality or his ideological beliefs.

You did not seem to have much to say when the BUSH SUCKS crowd were calling Bush a Nazi every other day. Never figured you for a hypocrite.
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Good of you to note the difference. It's still politics though and an attack on Gore. GOP supports Big Oil -> Big Oil attacks Gore.

How do you feel about the new PR campaign for CO2 anyway?

Why would I stick up for Bush (Rove) while much of his political stylings are borrowed straight from the Nazi playbook? No one is saying Bush kills Jews and homos, the Hitler references are to do with the way he acquires and maintains power.

The hypocracy is that your team cries foul at the drop of a hat but has no compuntion against doing exactly what they decry.
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You liberals are hypocrites!
You conservatives are hypocrites AND Nazis!
You liberals are hypocritical for calling us Nazis when you are Nazis!
I know you are but what am I?
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No one is saying Bush kills Jews and homos, the Hitler references are to do with the way he acquires and maintains power.

And the Goebbels reference was used to describe how this film distorts information to suit a specific purpose.

I abhor all Nazi references. Even if only to compare styles, it still holds a connotation of pure and brutal evil. Comparing anyone outside of Pol Pot, Stalin, or Milosevic to the Nazis is flat out wrong and disrespectful to those who died during Hitler's reign.

My problem is that one unknown, inarticulate man goes on a meaningless talk show and makes a statement that should not have been made and it is made out to trump the 6 years and unnecessary and inappropriate Nazi remarks made against Bush.

If you condemn one while justifying or ignoring the other, you hit the hypocrite meter pretty high.
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I propose that all political debates be carried out with the aid of nerf weaponry.
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Ezra, my Commie Pinko friend, this guy is a meaningless hack who tried to too hard to sound insightful and came off as a buffoon.

No Nazi references regarding politicians are exceptable.
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I understand your feelings about Hitler references. I do agree they get thrown around with abandon by both sides and it's disrespectful. To understand how I view the Bush regime and how far it could go if not opposed... the movie V for Vendetta pretty much sums it up.

Re: trumping... I don't feel I trumped anything. Though it's an oft used GOP trick. Even if say every member of the GOP is corrupt they will divert attention from themselves by pointing to one example from the other side of the aisle. Example... the Clinton ******* vs CIA hooker parties.

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And the Goebbels reference was used to describe how this film distorts information to suit a specific purpose.

I abhor all Nazi references. Even if only to compare styles, it still holds a connotation of pure and brutal evil. Comparing anyone outside of Pol Pot, Stalin, or Milosevic to the Nazis is flat out wrong and disrespectful to those who died during Hitler's reign.

My problem is that one unknown, inarticulate man goes on a meaningless talk show and makes a statement that should not have been made and it is made out to trump the 6 years and unnecessary and inappropriate Nazi remarks made against Bush.

If you condemn one while justifying or ignoring the other, you hit the hypocrite meter pretty high.
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>>this film distorts information to suit a specific purpose.
Are you saying that this film does distort? or that was just a point this guy was trying to make?


http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/22/bush-gore-movie/

In fact, as ThinkProgress has repeatedly documented, there is no scientific debate on this issue. Not a single peer-reviewed study conducted between 1993 and 2003 challenged the consensus that the earth’s temperature is rising due to human activity.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/24/...viser-on-gore/

At a speech at the American Enterprise Institute on Monday, the White House Council on Environmental Quality Chairman Jim Connaughton distanced himself from his boss and advised the audience to go watch Gore’s film. According to E&E News (sub. req’d):
Connaughton also surprised some by praising Gore’s new film, “An Inconvenient Truth,” as well as the recent Advertising Council campaign sponsored by Environmental Defense and the Robertson Foundation. In both cases, Connaughton said the messages presented on both campaigns’ Web sites mirror the Bush administration’s themes of better consumer practices and development of new technologies.
“I encourage you to go to them,” Connaughton said. “They’re giving the same advice I’ve been giving for years.”
Gore’s advice in the film, which opens today in NYC and LA, is simple: “that the world is facing catastrophic climate change because of the negligence of mankind.” Politicians – including Bush – have failed to acknowledge the “inconvenient truth” that human activity is contributing to global warming.
If this is the “same advice” that the President is receiving from his senior environmental adviser, then why is Bush now arguing that we should “set aside” the scientific evidence?
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Not one educated study in the last 13 years has refuted global warming? Not one? Nothing of substance?

One look at the web page for the Center for American Progress tells me all I need to know about their objectivitiy.

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!
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