ah yes, you've hit the nail on the head. SS, at its heart, is a ponzi scheme. for those not familiar, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi
yes, as long as there are more suckers to pay, the system works. I aldo found it interesting that his company was named the SEC. anyways, there aren't too many suckers now who dream of getting SS (at least nto those under 35). at least not in any meaningful manner. besides, what's wrong with canadians? beer and dougnuts, now that's the way to retire. you can be damned sure scores will be built then.

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Right...why is that fair?

I'm self employed. I pay more taxes.

But that's not tax. That's social security insurance which I will be drawing down from in proportion to my contribution. Assuming it still exists. I'm still paying Medicare on the full amount and I don't even use Medicare.

Not the same as Federal Income Tax, which is what I was talking about. But even so. Don't drive. I don't. She can choose not to.

Again, not federal tax. And it's based on consumption. I can afford more so I spend more and therefore pay more sales tax.

No way. If Debbie, that whore, was pulling her weight, she wouldn't be getting tax breaks for having kids.

You started by talking about tax, now you want to specify federal tax. Who cares if it's going to DC, Harrisburg, or the Rick Mariano legal defense fund? It's still government taking money out of your and Debbie's pockets.

Were you raised in this country? If so, your parents got tax breaks for raising you. They used that money for something useful, like putting food in your mouth, putting clothes on your back and (apparently) sending you to charm school. Now it's time to pay your debt to society, sonny.

If you don't like it, quit your job and see if Deadbeat Debbie's company is hiring. Better yet, call Eldondre's HR office. I read in another thread that his employer pays him to sit around and post on the internets all day, probably while getting hot stone massages from foxy Canadian masseuses.

Oh...I get it. because Debbie decided to get married and knocked up and pop out a couple ankle biters after marrying Joe the blue collar shlub, they should get preferential treatment. That's bull. I see these lower middle class people going around, eating out at restaurants, sitting in the corner bar drinking their budweiser. I educated myself, worked hard, and made myself valuable enough to get paid more. I didn't do that so that I could pay a higher portion of my legitimately earned income to taxes. And even if you figure in all the other taxes besides federal income tax, I'm still paying more than them. Yet we reward these people with additional tax breaks for every kid they have. Why should they get subsidized for having kids while I can't even fully deduct charitable contributions anymore? Next year I'm going to have to pay AMT!!! And these baby machines get tax exemption after tax exemption. Not to mention family leave. Why does the gov't guarantee them their job back after 3 months off work? I want to go on a 1 month safari in Africa. But I'd be out of work when I got back. Not them. They get special treatment for popping out babies.

Welcome to the Single world. Yes, I'm in it too.
You even get a "marriage" discount on car insurance. ha ha

What can you do? Nothing. I live in the burbs now, and most of my real estate taxes go to schools. The most I can do is go vote no when they want to raise taxes for the school budget.

That's the way it is. I've come to accept it.

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et tu brute?. progressive? lol.

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So you supported yourself from child to adult? You must have been rather smart to be able to earn enough as a child to afford to send yourself to a private grade school and private high school since you didn't want to mooch off of the public school system. Then possibly pay for your own college too (since grants and scholarships are for those damn leeches too). That's pretty impressive.

Some people have to take what the public school system has (which is lacking because people who CAN support it don't want to support it). Then when they are old enough they may have to take responsibility rather than being selfish. Maybe they have to support kids, or siblings, or parents rather than going to college. So they take up multiple jobs just so their family can live and eat. Maybe they are not as smart as you. But as hard working? I seriously doubt that. There are many, many greuling jobs out there that pay crap. Try picking strawberries for a year for 2$ an hour. Then let me know if that's not as hard as whatever you do is.

It's called social responsibilty. You're bitching because you lose 33% of your $100,000+ income. That means you have $67,000 left over. The 'slacker' at the supermarket only gets to take home $21,250 of her $25,000 income (33% would mean she only takes home $16,750 a year - a much harder hit on her than it is on you). And don't forget, if it wasn't for her, you'd starve.

Oh please. I got my Express jeans for 4$ at a thrift store. Supermarkets have sales on sh*t like cereal and chicken. 10$ for 10$ at Acme! But I guess you are too smart or rich for sales.

Sorry for sucking you guys in. I was playing Devil's Advocate. See this for explanation. Then the ElD and WSWDad can go on to explain to me how that's different (even though it isn't).

http://www.phillyblog.com/philly/sho...2&postcount=52

how the heck do I link to a post within a thread instead of just the single post, or just the entire thread. I know it can be done...I've seen it. Just can't figure it out.

huh?
seems like you were setting up a straw man rather than devil's advocate.

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