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Old 02-18-2004, 12:58 PM
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So, Dean is out and Edwards finished on 6 points below Kerry. Does Edwards have a chance? Will he get Deans votes or will Kerry get them?
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Old 02-18-2004, 03:21 PM
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Edwards doesn't have a chance. I was desperate, bored and must have been sniffing paint thinner the other day, because I listened to the Rush Limbaugh show and agreed with him. He says Edwards and Kerry have an agreement already, and are just gonna drag this thing out through the Spring so as to keep the Democrats on the front pages.
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Old 02-18-2004, 05:23 PM
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Sigh...Dean. Oh how I loved him.

There's more than half the electorate votes left...but with Edwards only carrying one state, I'd say Kerry is...well, who knows...it wasn't that long ago that Dean looked like a sure thing to me.
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Old 02-18-2004, 06:13 PM
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How about a Kerry-Edwards ticket? It balances out geographically.
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Old 02-18-2004, 06:14 PM
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Oh who the heck cares. So long as they're Democrats. And fans of FDR and his god-like policies.
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Old 02-18-2004, 08:18 PM
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The democrats weren't able to win a single state in the south last time around. Couldn't hurt to have someone that may appeal to them on the ticket. Anyway, everyone who is anyone is an FDR fan. ;-)
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Old 02-18-2004, 08:42 PM
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nobody said democrats were smart. hey, if this were 1892 i'd be voting democrat. seeing as it's not, i'm sure they'll put up some FDR/LBJ jackass to further ruin the country. democrats are sweet, they think it's good that they will have less money while our leaders hav emore. i need a beer.
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Dean really blew it. He hired a marketer, got cocky and opted not to campaign in some of the states (lazy). I heard today on CNN someone speculating that he may become the liberal talk show host that so many liberals have been clamoring for, a la RUsh for dems. I think he'd be very successful there.

I think Kerry/Edwards is a given, unfortunately - it's just such a non-descript pairing. Blah. What I'd really rather see is Kerry/Clinton, but I don't suppose that'll happen.

What I am not at all looking forward to is the inevitable mud-slinging relative to Vietnam. I support Bush, but I would rather if he just thank the veterans for their service and not even try to fight the "national guard is honorable" fight. Let it go and concentrate on the policies, for heavens sake.
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Dean's letter to supporters today:

Dear Brooke, [I was his only supporter, apparently--the eds]

I am very proud of all of you and very grateful to all of you for your
extraordinary hard work.

I announced today that I am no longer actively pursuing the presidency.

I am so thankful for all of you who traveled around the country, showed
up at our office, worked around the clock, because you believed in what
we were doing - to you, thousands of Americans who have given generously
of your time, in your states, because you believed in our cause.

I want to thank the 300,000 small donors that decided that they wanted
their country back.

I want to thank all the people in every state who heard our message and
supported us.

We have led this party back to considering what its heart and soul is.
Although there is a lot of work left to do, I am very proud of all of
you and very grateful to all of you for your extraordinary hard work.

As the fight moves forward, I have some things that I specifically want
to ask of you.

First, keep active in the primary. We are still on the ballots. Sending
delegates to the convention only continues to energize our party. Fight
on in the caucuses. Use your network to send progressive delegates to
the convention in Boston. We are not going away. We are staying
together, unified -- all of us.

Secondly, we will convert Dean for America into a new grassroots
organization, and I hope you stay involved. We are determined to keep
this entire organization vibrant. There are a lot of ways to make
change. We are leaving one track, but we are going on another track that
will take back America for ordinary people again.

Third, there have been a lot of people who have decided to run for
office locally as a result of this campaign. I encourage you to run for
office and support candidates like you who run for office. We will use
this enormous organization to support you as you run -- we will change
the face of democracy so that it represents ordinary Americans once
again.

We must beat George W. Bush in November. I will support the nominee of
our party and do everything I can to beat George W. Bush and I urge you
to do the same. But we will not be above letting our nominee know that
we expect them to adhere to the standards that this organization has set
for decency, honesty, integrity and standing up for ordinary American
working people.

One of the things that I realized a long time ago is that change is very
difficult. There is enormous institutional resistance to change in this
country. You cannot expect people with great privileges taken at the
expense of ordinary working people to surrender them lightly.

Change is hard work. Change does not happen simply because you go to a
rally and simply because you make phone calls -- and I know how hard
everybody has worked. But change is a process that you can never give up
on.

Change is the state of America and change is the state of humankind. The
history of humanity is that determined people overcome obstacles. It is
natural for people to resist, but it is also inevitable that we will
win.

So we will continue to fight. This is the end of phase one of this
fight, but the fight will go on, and we will be in it together. We will
continue to bring our message of hope and change to the American people.

Thank you very much for everything that you have done.

Governor Howard Dean, M.D."
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nobody said democrats were smart.
That's why I'm thinking of changing my registration to Whig.
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