Why was the Penn line superior?

not in a while, why?

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take the R6 someday and look at the line that is now a trail. it's got drainage, it's high and further from the river....less prone to flooding. it came in from the west along a higher speed right of way (how many tracks used to come in the west side?). I realize the RR didn't make the annoying loop through temple but still, it does flood out more than it should. the PRR built things well.

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The RR used to come into the Reading terminal. The terminal shed closed in 1985. I remember coming into the terminal in 1980, when the Philies had their World Series Parade.

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Just asking, to see if you where into video games. At Pitcher's Pub you used to be able to challenge a guy to a game of Madden on the sega genesis and some bars do have Madden leagues.

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What's the latest on Pitchers? Who is moving into the space?

I dunno, I haven't been in pitchers pub in over 13 years and don't go don't Main St, its not my style. The cresson Street inn is the closest I'll get, but I heard that's changed.

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But, even if the SVM is put through, or the Quakertown-diesel over R6 CynWyd Bridgee in Manayunk becomes a reality, the trains won't be running on the upper track - there's a new condo development in the way in Conshy, as well as Mercy Hospital.

The plan seems to be shared tracks to Shawmont Station, then the SVM/Q-town diesel would climp up to meet the upper Ivy Ridge Station and connect to the R6 Cynwyd bridge.

Hal

The first tunnel into Manhattan was built not by a governmental entity but by the Pennsy Rail Road. That fact has boggled my mind since I heard it a few years back on a PBS show about tunnels (think it was an episode of Building Big). What an insanely powerful company that must have been.

It's odd how in today's world the only real legacy the PRR seems to have is that a lot of West Market office buildings are still called Penn Center.

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yes I realize that. It's too late to undo most of the damage done by poor decision making but we can correct some. Also, I've always thought that the R100 should be extended to North Wales (Merck) using existing track (have no idea if its active or not). At any rate, I think a P-ville line is probably the most important. It affects so many congested areas and woudl be a huge shot int eh arm for one of SEPTA's laggard lines. I ride the 124 bus and it's packed everyday despite being the slowest mode of transportation known to man. And that's outbound. the R6 is inaccessible for a large swath of people stuck inhorrendous traffic.
if you mean it didn't used to be full of old time yunk alcoholics and drug addicts then yes, it's changed. The Old E is where it's at.
Actually it probably has more of a legacy than you think. In fact, how much of our existing rail network wsa built by them? the entire Mainline, with the exception of Paoli (the only Italian name) was built and named by the Penn C. These towns were so popular and profitable that there are Devons and Straffords all over the country built by copycat railroads and the Penn C. The Main Line itself refers to the Penn C's 4 track main line west. At one point the Penn C employed 500,000 people.

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