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Old 07-25-2007, 11:34 PM
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I didn't have a problem with the location of Well Grounded, because I don't mind walking and parking a block or so.

However, the building across from the Sunoco and that little General Store/Deli/blunt shop (the one that I am talking about at one time was a Masonic building on the top and a junky deli below) would be a great recycle project for a coffee shop. People could pull in right off the drive, or from EFalls bridge on bikes.

I've never been able to figure out why such a big, beautiful building was allowed to become a pigeon coop. Been abandoned a long time now.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:16 AM
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I didn't have a problem with the location of Well Grounded, because I don't mind walking and parking a block or so.

However, the building across from the Sunoco and that little General Store/Deli/blunt shop (the one that I am talking about at one time was a Masonic building on the top and a junky deli below) would be a great recycle project for a coffee shop. People could pull in right off the drive, or from EFalls bridge on bikes.

I've never been able to figure out why such a big, beautiful building was allowed to become a pigeon coop. Been abandoned a long time now.
In east falls we call that shady shop MAJOR WONG LEE!!!

The location for well grounded was ideal but the business itself was horrible. The product and service were comparable to a little kids lemonade stand on the side of the road. A real coffee house (not Starbucks) with proper management will indeed succeed in the current same location as Well Grounded.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:19 AM
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Last time I was in there the kid making my drink was about 12 years old. Aside from having terrible service and terrible coffee, it's a great space. A coffee shop with a better attitude would do great. The parking's not ideal, but it's not as bad as La Colombe.

Anyone seen a drive-through espresso stand around Philadelphia? Something like Cowgirls Espresso would be ideal...
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:01 AM
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in east falls we call that shady shop MAJOR WONG LEE!!!

Someone was tellng me that Major Wong Lee had good hoagies! I'd have to be starving to death to step foot in there. LOL.
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:40 AM
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I'm disappointed to hear that Well Grounded is closing but not surprised at all. We don't need more vacancy there.

I only went in there twice when they first opened and we had such bad experiences that in the past 3 years I've never even thought to go back.

Fortunately about the same time the Bakery at the Mills opened, (their food/coffee/environment is excellent, service is slow but very friendly so you forgive them).

The lady that ran Well Grounded clearly lacked people skills and experience running a small business. Some people in this world "just don't get it" and she was one of them.
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:58 AM
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I always found the woman who owned the place to be pretty nice. The coffee was so-so but I thought it was a good little shop. I never experienced all the negatives that folks are talking about here in the 50+ times I went there. Oh well, coffee shops are a tough business.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:12 AM
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Here's an example.

I hat dinner at Spriggs (now Buckets) across the street from Well-Grounded with 3 other friends from East Falls. Nobody wanted dessert or coffee at Spriggs except for one girl who said, "Let's just pay the check and we can walk across the street to that new coffee shop and I'll get something there."

Well-Grounded had been open for about 1 month by this point and I knew it to be pretty bad coffee and experience because I went in the third day they were open and found out that they didn't know how to make coffee, but didn't want to say anything so kept my mouth shut.

We all walked over to Well-Grounded and the girl orderd a latte (or something like that) and some sort of pastry. The owner looks at the rest of us and asks what we want and we all just said, "Nothing, we're good. We're just with her."

And she got real hostile real fast and asked us what we were doing in there if we weren't going to order anything. We were all just pretty shocked and didn't know how to respond so I said sort of increduously, "Would you prefer that we wait outside?" and she said, "Yes" in grouchy tone.

Our one friend who had ordered something and had just handed over her $5 during this exchange said, "You know what, I don't want the latte or the pastry, I'll leave with my friends".

Owner says, "She already started making your latte so you're not getting your money back."

Friend says, "That's fine. Keep it because you're going to need all the help you can get."

That was it. None of us have ever gone back and we told everybody we know in East Falls about the experience.

I'm willing to forgive a bad pot of coffee or slow service, but when you make customers feel uncomfortable - that's just stupid. Especially in a small community like EF, you can alienate yourself very quickly.
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Old 07-26-2007, 10:37 AM
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You account sums it up well. That never happened to me but it might as well have--that's the feeling the place evoked in me.

My first thought on hearing that it was closing was, "oh, that's too bad." But then I realized that I didn't care one iota--I was never going in there again anyway.

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Our one friend who had ordered something and had just handed over her $5 during this exchange said, "You know what, I don't want the latte or the pastry, I'll leave with my friends".

Owner says, "She already started making your latte so you're not getting your money back."

Friend says, "That's fine. Keep it because you're going to need all the help you can get."

That was it. None of us have ever gone back and we told everybody we know in East Falls about the experience.

I'm willing to forgive a bad pot of coffee or slow service, but when you make customers feel uncomfortable - that's just stupid. Especially in a small community like EF, you can alienate yourself very quickly.
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Old 07-26-2007, 10:50 AM
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So whats the story? Is that same space available now?
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:17 AM
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They should put a Target in that spot. Then i would only have to drive 1 minute instead of 4 minutes to get to one.
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