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Old 07-03-2008, 09:57 AM
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I just heard on 1060 that today is Black Independence Day – some event is taking place at the Presidents House and is sponsored by ATA (Avenge the Ancestors). Sigh. Is everything going to come down to this anti-assimilation business? Don’t celebrate July 4th, that’s “White Independence Day” I guess.

I looked for some info on the “Welcome America” site but found nothing. I did a quick Google search and found this:

http://www.ushistory.org/presidentshouse/news/atac 070204.htm


ATA evidently wants to avenge the victims of European led slavery. In light of this, I would suggest that maybe we can line up all the white men in the city down Market Street and have the ATA members walk down the line and kick us all in the balls. Somehow I think they’ll still be angry.
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:24 AM
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Can someone please tell me how Philadelphia became the home of this slave monument.This monument was originally supposed to be built on the National Mall in Washington DC, thats where it belongs not next to Indepence Hall. I dont need Al Sharpton,Jesse Jackson and every other black with an axe to grind using Independence Hall as a backdrop while pounding their pulpit.

The few measly years he was here George Washington had 8 slaves in Philadlephia that he brought with him from Monunt Vernon,while nearly 400 slaves remained on his full time estate in Mount Vernon.


Slavery is a taboo subject and all that ails the history of this country. 90% of the slaves were kept below the mason dixon line. Why did Philadlephia become the showpiece for american slavery? How the hell did that happen? Are you kidding me.

How did Washington DC a hotbed of slave activity end up as the capital of the USA but Philadlephia ended up with a slave monument 250 years later?

I'm sorry but that slave monument belongs in Washington DC not Independece National Park. This is classic example of Philadlephia being manipulated by Washington DC.

Who wants to be known as having the national slave monument?

Whats next Philaldephia? A national venereal disease monument? Maybe we can have Three Mile Island send us some top soil and have the National Nuclear Meltdown monument. Is Philadlephia that hard up that it needs to attract visitors using unscrupulous events in american history that Philadlephia had relatively little or know involvement in.

It's Unbelievable.

Philadelphia would sell its soul for a dollar.

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Can someone please tell me how Philadelphia became the home of this slave monument.This monument was originally supposed to be built on the National Mall in Washington DC, thats where it belongs not next to Indepence Hall. I dont need Al Sharpton,Jesse Jackson and every other black with an axe to grind using Independence Hall as a backdrop while pounding their pulpit.

The few measly years he was here George Washington had 8 slaves in Philadlephia that he brought with him from Monunt Vernon,while nearly 400 slaves remained on his full time estate in Mount Vernon.


Slavery is a taboo subject and all that ails the history of this country. 90% of the slaves were kept below the mason dixon line. Why did Philadlephia become the showpiece for american slavery? How the hell did that happen? Are you kidding me.

How did Washington DC a hotbed of slave activity end up as the capital of the USA but Philadlephia ended up with a slave monument 250 years later?
I don't want to ruin the party but, this whole project is a farce.

It is the bastardization & politicizing of of history.

It is a gamble that by playing the "race card" it will instill a sense of guilt to into Caucasians while the organizers receive huge monetary grants to continue Ad infinitum, Ad nauseam. It seems to be working too.

A simple explanation, exonerating our forefathers concerning their Philadelphia homes, is that they were built at least 50 to 75 years before the Revolutionary War, perhaps longer; long before any President even thought about living in Philadelphia.

In fact; it was never considered, but all those tunnels running between those buildings (buildings built prior to the Revolution) were most likely a way for merchants to transport and move goods between shops or to keep the bakery separate from the dwelling.

The streets of Philadelphia were so full of horse sh!t and human waste, that to do otherwise would have soiled and ruined their goods.

On top of that no slave owner would think of burying a negroe near his home or in his basement.

Slavery was a System; way of live that was forced on the Colonies by England. It took many brave patriotic white men to go against the grain to change that.

There were many more whites that were enslaved, long before the Blacks were forced into America and latter found Freedom. I can hardly go on about this. The following is something every person of every color needs to watch:

Quote:
White Slavery in Colonial America pt.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kn2T6WKuEc

White Slavery in Colonial America pt. 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEeok1EEl0

From Indentured Servitude to Racial Slavery pt.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu6blXHALrw


From Indentured Servitude to Racial Slavery pt.2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAyaRF4aSFI

Slave Catchers/Resistors 1 - Deal with the Devil
Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors (dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave) - Early beginnings....America colonies slavery African transatlantic plantation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRnLzkXXUBc

Slave Catchers/Resistors 2 - Stono Rebellion
Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors (dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave) - Fort Mose in Spanish Florida. - Stono's rebellion of 1739 Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors
(dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayT0JWXrBUw

Slave Catchers/Resistors 3 - Poor Whites
Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors (dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave) - More about slave patrols, resistance, and a look at Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors
(dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave)

- More about slave patrols, resistance, and a look at the varying roles played by poor whites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR9pdnnfqJQ

Slave Catchers/Resistors 4 - Am. Revolutionary War
Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors (dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave) - Revolutionary War and Lord Dunmore's proclamation (the first emancipation of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOrwQG8waRA

Slave Catchers/Resistors 5 - David Walker
Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors (dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave) - David Walker's Appeal of 1829, and the fear it struck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-5pau4zZU

Slave Catchers/Resistors 6 - Nat Turner
Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors (dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave) - Christianity as a tool of control - Nat Turner rebellion of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1XNQVHgfek

Slave Catchers/Resistors 7 - White Terrorism
Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors (dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave)...America colonies slavery African transatlantic plantation racism segregation terrorism Jim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnkWe10vlAQ

Slave Catchers/Resistors 8 - The Free North
Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors (dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave) - Northern slave catchers, and abolitionists - Boston Vigilance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEWe-J5_69E

Slave Catchers/Resistors 9 - Civil War
Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors (dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave) - American Civil War - Fort Monroe, VA (aka "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrPCRTvPX2k

Slave Catchers/Resistors 10 - Reconstruction and Jim Crow
Slave Catchers, Slave Resistors (dispelling the Myth of the "docile & content" slave) - Building of independent African-American communities - White
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwM_mmA4YDc

Oral History--Early African American memories
02:04 From: Historian1812
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQk8J...eature=related
With this project (on the presidents house and black history), I see that Reverend Sharpton et.al. are not held to a very high standard when it comes to proving history.

Even with all the millions of dollars coming into this NON-PROFIT to appease the militant blacks at the expense of the truth and at the expense of the reputations of our Founding Fathers, all the Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world can't even buy a decent citation to prove what they are alleging. (I am not talking about the fact that the presidents owned slaves)

What they do not tell in this Project is that most of these slaves "owned by the Presidents" (were really employees as much as extended family members) eventually received not only their freedom, but a stipend for their education as well as other personal property.


P.S.

I was very happy when the state of New Jersey recently apologized for slavery.

I thought to myself that pertains to every person's ancestors black, white or mulatto who were slaves.

Having a "Black Independence Day" is fine, but not at the expense of the truth in history. As fascinating as this archaeological dig is, it does not prove a thing about "Black History" from that period. It does however prove quite a bit about the evolution of the "Black-History Historian."

It seems like some things never change as the streets of Philadelphia are still full of horse sh!t and human waste.
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:46 AM
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" Don’t celebrate July 4th, that’s “White Independence Day”

I am sick to death of the ongoing cultivation of "victimhood" in this society.
It will never disappear no matter how much time passes. I am sick of being PC. I just say what I want anymore. The US is fast becoming a third world country with a firmly entrenched underclass. I no longer care whose fault it is.

Ironically The British are the only consistent allies this country has left.
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Philly, being on the Mason-Dixon line, was heavily involved in the Slave Trade from the beginning. Once slavery was illegal here, the actual buying and selling was done in Baltimore (as MD was a slave state).

In the 19th century, this city also had heavy social and financial ties to New Orleans, which was a major trading point (though the treatment of slaves in NO tended to be different than in the rest of the south for various reasons).

I'm not trying to defend this BS, and I don't think we need a National Slave Monument here, but don't assume this city was totally innocent just because we were in the North.
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Washington Sq was formerly known as Congo Square.
And I am still sick of it all.
Now we are all debt/wage slaves.
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I never really understood why the National Jewish History museum is on Independence Hall, but it's nice to have. The Civil War Museum is supposedly moving down to the First National Bank, too. I guess having a slave memorial is apropos if you justify having those other museums down there.

But I do not like it being used against our Founding Fathers. When will people realize that these people who set the framework for our Independence were marked men, sentenced to hang if caught? Even Ben Franklin, who lived just a few feet from the President's house, formed the first abolishinist society in the colonies.

Unless this memorial tells the story of slavery in the north, unless it is an educational experience and not a soapbox, this memorial is useless. History cannot be changed, but it can be taught, understood, and hopefully prevented from ever happening again (hahahaha, yah right).
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Can someone please tell me how Philadelphia became the home of this slave monument.This monument was originally supposed to be built on the National Mall in Washington DC, thats where it belongs not next to Indepence Hall. I dont need Al Sharpton,Jesse Jackson and every other black with an axe to grind using Independence Hall as a backdrop while pounding their pulpit.

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When I am mayor I will bulldoze that monument.

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In light of this, I would suggest that maybe we can line up all the white men in the city down Market Street and have the ATA members walk down the line and kick us all in the balls. Somehow I think they’ll still be angry.
I will not be attending the ball kicking celebration.

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