and people wonder why some radical muslims dislike the US, i mean with attitudes like this is it really that surprising?

And it's not as black and white as you believe it to be. Educate yourself about the military and the men and women who choose to serve in it before making these naive statements.

i'm not sure what "naive" statements you are referring to.

i have spent a fair share of time with military personnel. i respect that you may disagree with my conclusions, but that does not mean they come from a lack of education on the topic at hand.

I guarantee you that you haven't spent as much time as me, and I stand by my comment that your views -- especially your naive comment that you "cannot support the troops because you belief this to be an immoral war" or that a soldier can pick and choose which of his orders to follow (unless patently illegal) -- are quite naive. So a soldier who is deployed from Fort Lewis to Iraq for 12 months, away from his wife and children, to ensure that the troops actually fighting have the medical assets they need, is not worth your support because you disagree with those who made the decision, 5 years ago, to invade Iraq? How obtuse, insensitive, and disrespectful of you.

the statement you put in quotes is NOT a quote from my post.

i said:

"i think they should have all the equipment they need to do the job they have been assigned to do, but i do not respect what they are doing as i believe this is an immoral war."

so, like you said, i can respect the troops (that are worthy of respect) even though i do not respect what they are doing. i do not automatically respect someone though, just because they are in the military, as there are many people in the military who do not deserve my respect.

Epoxy:

There is no nice way to say this. Your statement is racist bullshit.

Tochet,
You don't appear to be understanding what toxigal is saying. She supports the troops that are doing the right thing. However it is a known fact that some soldiers have murdered innocent civilians. Only a few incidents are public, but it is clear that there are more that are being hidden.
Apparently anything less than being a zombie 100% supporter is treason. How little we learn from our past mistakes.

Where did I say that? Take your hyperbole elsewhere, my friend.

Toxigal, you're really trying to speak out of both sides of your mouth with your post facto explanation of what you intended to mean by your initial comment. I'm not sure how you purportedly "respect" the soldiers while also saying, in the same breath, that you "do not respect what they are doing" because of the administration's decision, 5 years ago, to invade Iraq. But hey, we'll agree to disagree.

Concerning the war, War is HELL! I fortunately never had to serve. My Brother-In-Law served in the first Gulf War and worked for a contractor in the war now. He's DEAD now...Suicide! He told me alot of stories. Yes, Our troops(Not all) are raping and killing innocent people, believe me! If you think that the bombing only killed "Combatants", you are nuts. He told me of babies blown to bits, bodies missing arms, legs, heads etc. The sad part is that 99.9% of the civilians in Iraq had nothing to do with anything. Just living at the wrong place at the wrong time. What's worse is that the invasion was just a plan to grab resources in Iraq that could be sold for alot more than they are actually worth due to instability in the region. If you think deregulation of the Commodities markets in 2001 and the Iraq War had nothing to do with each other, I will tell you to go fill up your tank and think back to when you filled it back in 2000. Any difference?

Muslims hate everybody who is not muslim. Period. They believe that you should either convert or die. I didn't start hating them until they started bombing U.S. Marine barracks. I'm glad to hear that the Danes are starting to get tough with them, hopefully the rest of Europe and the West will follow suit. People aren't going to just let them change their culture and laws in the West.