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View Poll Results: Will you participate in forcing our elected officials to enact a bottle recycling law
Yes, I will participate and will mail envelopes on Sept. 15th 9 39.13%
NO, I'd rather leave the bottles in landfills for our children's children 14 60.87%
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:09 PM
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Many threads have been posted on littering and bottle laws. Yet the powers that be do not listen. These bottles do not decompose. Our space to dispose trash is limited. We waste manpower and time disposing of them and they are recyclable.
What if we all sent the plastic bottles to our elected officials in Harrisburg and Washington DC.
They crush easily under a car's tires. and three or four would fit into a brown manilla envelope. It would probably cost about 60 cents to mail them. We could scribble on the envelope:
............ ENACT A BOTTE RETURN LAW NOW!
Addressed to your local representatives. Imagine the look on their faces if Hundreds & Thousands of envelopes were delivered on the same day to every one of their offices.
Do you think they would get the message to enact a bottle recycling law?
Knowing how slow they are to respond. We could continue to mail the bottles until the law was enacted and enforced.

I suggest we mail them on SEPT. 15th and then continue every 15th of the month until we have a BOTTLE RECYCLE LAW like 11other states already have and 10 more States are in process of enacting.

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Old 06-23-2008, 07:31 PM
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I like the poll. Worded like a professional.
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do you mean a deposit system like MI?
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:11 AM
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Yes:
Currently there are 11 States with Bottle Deposit Laws.
They are California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Oregon & Vermont.
The deposit amount ranges from 2.5 cents to 15 cents depending on size and whether the bottle can be recycled.
Another 10 States are considering enacting a bottle bill. These are
Arizona, Kansas, Maryland, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey,
Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee & West Virginia.
Also, a bottle bill has been languishing in the U.S. Congress for years.

I understand that Arlen Spector has a financial interest in a soda distribution company and this may be one reason for the delay in Congress and why Pennsylvania is not even considering it.

14 yrs ago, while in New York State, I was surprised how easily stores handled these returns. Some did it manually, others by machine.

As the Keystone State we should long ago have enacted this bill. We should be ashamed with 2 surrounding States already doing it, and with at least 3 more neighboring States in process.

If we, private citizens demanded action today this law would go into effect.
It’s not as if our representatives have to write the law, they merely have to photocopy an existing one from another State.

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I'd say it's not very high on people's radar, esp these days. Joe Sixpack had an article where he stated that reusing bottles, rather than just recylcing in the sense that most people mean, is probably the most environmentally friendly. he further posited that the issue was that as it is, companies are able to pass on the cost of disposal of their products to taxpayers via recycling programs or simply trash collection. That the issue is a mispricing in the market. the state should encourage a return to the refill system. It's an interesting take that I sympathize with.
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Old 06-26-2008, 05:56 PM
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There always seem to be some who would rather leave the problem to the next guy.
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Yes:
Currently there are 11 States with Bottle Deposit Laws.
They are California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, Oregon & Vermont.
The deposit amount ranges from 2.5 cents to 15 cents depending on size and whether the bottle can be recycled.
Another 10 States are considering enacting a bottle bill. These are
Arizona, Kansas, Maryland, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey,
Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee & West Virginia.
Also, a bottle bill has been languishing in the U.S. Congress for years.

I understand that Arlen Spector has a financial interest in a soda distribution company and this may be one reason for the delay in Congress and why Pennsylvania is not even considering it.

14 yrs ago, while in New York State, I was surprised how easily stores handled these returns. Some did it manually, others by machine.

As the Keystone State we should long ago have enacted this bill. We should be ashamed with 2 surrounding States already doing it, and with at least 3 more neighboring States in process.

If we, private citizens demanded action today this law would go into effect.
It’s not as if our representatives have to write the law, they merely have to photocopy an existing one from another State.

Will never happen as long as we have do-nothing politicians only interested in lining their pockets. Did you read yesterday's Inky. Five more council members signed up for DROP so at the end of their current terms they get a financial windfall. Of course they are only interested in helping the community. OOPS .,that money just happened to fall into their pockets. Two council members and Street did it January and it cost us a cool Million Dollars. Their priorities this year are raising taxes and raising real estate assessments, except on their cronies.
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:01 AM
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Hello does anyone care about the environment?
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:55 AM
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Bottle deposits are a joke.
Have you ever lived in a bottle deposit state?
I did MA and NY.

You have to take the bottles back to the supermarket, stick them in a machine and it spits out a reciept that you can get redeemed at the checkout.

Since this is a hassle, the majority of bottle deposits go unclaimed, providing a nice chunk of change at 5¢ a pop to the beverage companies. If you can walk to the supermarket do you really want to

It just winds up being a tax on people and most of the bottles get in to the waste stream - either to be recycled or landfilled. It also leads to people going into trash cans to fish out bottles so they can get the deposit. I have seen obviously homeless people in MA and NY collect bottles so they can get the money. There is nothing like going to the supermarket and seeing a smelly homeless guy in front with a couple big bags of soda cans and bottles feeding the bottle machine.

Mandatory recycling of the bottles and placing recycling containers at street corners would probably be a better thing to do if you want to get the bottles out of landfills.

Bottle deposit laws are just more "we are the government and have solved the problem aren't we wonderful vote for us" legislation that doesn't work. See: "No Child Left Behind"

By the way, nice "When did you stop beating your wife?" type of poll.

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