AWESOME find and it makes perfect sense .... which .... unfortunately means that it'll never happen.

You'se saaaaaaaassssssssssyyyyyyy.

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Peter Cetera:
Sometimes I just forget
Say things I might regret
It breaks my heart to see you crying

It's funny that people really believe that taking away tranpasses will keep students out of the Gallery. Even with a school token a student can get pretty far(if they still give those out).

If students aren't given transpasses what will the alternative be? Instead of some of these students roaming the halls I guess they'll be roaming the streets. I do actually think the attendance condition is a good idea, it just would have been nice if they were doing this to try to combat truancy and not save money because the school district is in the red.

All the measures they have used to combat truancy has failed. Even holding parents responsible. This step will do nothing more than make some people stay home. I'm sure some of the posters would love that. It's not like they'll seem them in the Gallery or their own neigborhoods.

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I am very disappointed in you.
-Mayor Michael "Nut" Nutter.

What's the point of this post. Isn't conditioning the free pass (which is intended to allow kids to travel to and from school) on the student actually attending school a reasonable proposal?

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Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

Not to stray off from the token issue but onto truancy and the above, I think most all decent students would prefer the trouble type kids to be roaming the streets rather than the halls while theyre there. I never understood forcing kids that don't want to be there into being at schools and instead being disruptive to others.

doublepost

I'll repost this part:

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I am very disappointed in you.
-Mayor Michael "Nut" Nutter.

In an ideal world all students would be decent and we wouldn't need these measures. But the fact still remains that until you reach a certain grade, it's MANDATORY that you attend school. Now how to enforce that is a different matter and thread. At least when some of these kids are in school you can keep some sort of eye on them. If we would spend more time trying to keep people in school than locking them up, we might just have a better city.

* I understand why they lock deabeat dad's up, but it's still a bad idea.

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I am very disappointed in you.
-Mayor Michael "Nut" Nutter.

Who cares what there motives are? Why should our tax dollars be spent to provide passes so that kids can travel (and wreak havoc) on the subways all day.

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Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

I was discussing this with Neil last night and he raised a good point. I agree with the line of thinking that removing the transpasses is a form of punishment, but as I also agree with Neil, once you remove their ability to get to school, you have even a less chance of them attending.

On that line of reasoning and after thinking about it more, it may not be the most logical way of dealing with truancy. Ultimately the goal is to get them TO school, not cut our losses.

I think some of this stuff can be better addressed also when they update the fare system and have more tracking.

What would be neat is, if SEPTA set up a website for all student transpasses. Parents could login and see all the locations where their kids used the pass and at what times (or they could call and ask for a report mailed to them).

Also, if you had cards that link to the user, you could effectively lock it down to only approved transit lines... the ones that get you to your home and school.

That way, you do not remove the method to get to school, but you severely curtail it's exploitable use.

(Or make it a reward system. It is global use and if you have 10% truancy, it gets locked down to just school use).

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