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Old 06-08-2008, 10:32 PM
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The part that always astounds me when I hear about oil prices heading up isn't that the price of gas/deisal will go up (omg...like you didn't see that one coming from a million miles away!!!).

I guess no one realises that OTHER things are made from oil. Lets see...

Artificial flavors, colors, and
preservatives in processed foods
Sponges
Rubberbands
Mascara
Hairspray
Liquid and bar soaps
Asphalt
Chewing gum
CDs and DVDs
Artificial fragrances
Paint thinner
Adhesives/Glues
Stuffed animals
Many prescription and over-thecounter
drugs
Varnishes/stains
Plastic food packaging coatings
inside: steel food cans; paper
wrappers, cups, boxes, trays, and
cartons; jar lids; and more.
Gloves
Game Boys/PlayStations/Xboxes
Candles and other products made
with paraffin wax, including some
brands of chocolate
Saccharin (Sweet’N Low)
Ink
Dishwashing liquids
Paintbrushes
Telephones/Cellphones
Insecticides and herbicides
Antiseptics
Fishing lures
Deodorant
Vinyl flooring
Carpet cleaners
Yarn
Tents
Paint rollers
Floor cleaner and wax
Shoes
Electrician's tape
Scrubber pads
Rollerskate wheels
Skis
Hand and body lotions
Clothesline
Dyes
Soft contact and eyeglass lenses
Shampoo and conditioner
Kerosene
Most synthetic fabrics including
nylon, polyester, Lycra/spandex
and acrylic
Food preservatives
Fishing rods
Oven cleaners
Transparent tape
Anaesthetics
Upholstery
Dice
Disposable diapers
Audio and Video Cassettes
Mops
Paints
Purses
Electric blankets
Awnings
Ammonia
Many automotive components:
batteries, bumpers, dashboards,
upholstery, seat cushions,
carpeting, hoses, power steering
fluid, antifreeze, motor oil and
filters, tires, hubcaps, floormats,
seatbelts, wiring, sound insulation,
windshield washer fluid, belts,
wiper blades, etc.
Plexiglass
Synthetic rubber/latex
Pillows
Vitamin capsules
Fabric softeners
Movie film
Rubbing alcohol
Loudspeakers
Boats
Toilet bowl cleaner
Credit cards
Fertilizers
Crayons
Insect repellent
Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) pipes
Toilet seats
Air fresheners
Caulking
Roofing shingles
Drain cleaners
Fishing boots
Lifejackets
Balloons
Shower curtains
Garden hoses
Golf balls
Curtains
Plywood adhesive
Umbrellas
Laundry detergents
Dental floss
Beach umbrellas
Rubber cement
Sunglasses
Putty
Faucet washers
Cold cream
Bandages
Antihistamines
Hair coloring
Nail polish
False teeth
Petroleum jelly
Toothpaste
Golf bags
Tennis rackets
Toothbrushes
Spot/stain removers
Perfumes and colognes
Luggage
Wire insulation
Shoe polish
Shower doors
Cortisone
Carpeting
Artificial turf
Heart valves
Lipstick
Artificial limbs
Hearing aids
Vaporizers
Aspirin
Shaving cream
Parachutes
Propane
Vinyl siding
Motorcycles
Many birth control devices
including synthetic latex and
polyurethane condoms,
diaphragms, sponges, and
intrauterine devices
Baby bottles, pacifiers, and
teething rings
Industrial lubricants
Solvents
Natural gas (methane)
Jet fuel
Gaskets
Computer components
Window cleaner
Charcoal lighter fluid
Silverware and other metal polishes
Dishwasher detergent
Disinfectants
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Old 06-09-2008, 12:05 AM
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I just don't understand? All I heard for years was President Bush went to war for the OIL, What happened to all the OIL, Did Iraq run out of oil???? C'mon guys lets bring all the OIL home!!!
Bush made money for his people when he sent us to war...people such as KBR (no-bid contracts!), Halliburton, etc etc. Notice, I didn't say "when he went to war" because, obviously, he has never gone to war and has never tasted war, only been a war-profiteer for himself, his family (Bush Sr, Carlyle Cos, Saudis, I'm sure they're all smiling all the way to their banks...with big fat pay days).

Besides doing that, Bush has also ensured that oil prices can be jacked up in the markets by various short-term traders, speculators, and manipulators, without any oversight what-so-ever. I bet most Americans aren't even aware of the government regulator agency that's supposed to oversee commodities futures markets. Bush has essentially put this agency out of business of regulating oil futures. For more info, check this out:

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...s+%2B+analysis

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As recently as May 20, the U.S. commodities regulator, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), insisted at a Senate hearing that speculation was not causing the rapid spike in energy prices. The CFTC's chief economist, Jeffrey Harris, testified that the agency found that speculation and manipulation are not causing energy prices to surge. He said that instead prices are being driven "by powerful economic fundamental forces and the laws of supply and demand." Nine days later, after further pressure from Congress, the agency announced steps aimed at more oversight of energy futures trading.
This, after doing not much work since Bush got to the White House in 2000.
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:10 AM
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not an environmentalist, just a realist. i could care less if there was enough oil till kingdom come. there are plenty of diamonds arent there. if you want to fill your tank your going to have to pay for it, its as simple as that.
Diamonds?! Ummmm...i don't need diamonds weekly like i do gas. It's as simple as that.
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:16 AM
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Anyone who thinks there is more oil to be had out there needs to look in the mirror, it is a FINITE resource people... it will not last forever though we are hardly about to run out. But we need to place some of the blame on our own bloated and wasteful culture. Driving around in the trucks we use is stupid and now those who bought into the whole SUV culture will pay the price. Too bad. For thousands of years humanity has built houses, traded, grown crops, raised families, traveled and lived their loves without the auto much less the big truck.
The car is one of the greatest inventions ever (next to the refrigerator). So if you want to give up your car go right ahead...I don't blame India and China wanting to get ahead..there's plenty of oil for everyone.
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:24 AM
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Diamonds?! Ummmm...i don't need diamonds weekly like i do gas. It's as simple as that.
Man, in plurality, is rather smart--most of the time.

If man dies out simply because he cannot put a tube inside a hole, one that isn't his own appendage no less, then that would be the greatest example of irony in the cosmos.

Rearranging your lifestyle so that it doesn't completely revolve around a car is not as difficult as you think. In fact, in this part of Pennsylvania, it's probably one of only 5 areas in the country where it's rather easy--not just feasible.

I haven't pulled my car out of the garage since January. Definitely don't need to now since I'm on PCS--for those rare 2x a month trips which a car is most useful.
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:34 AM
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I just don't understand? All I heard for years was President Bush went to war for the OIL, What happened to all the OIL, Did Iraq run out of oil???? C'mon guys lets bring all the OIL home!!!
We can't even get OIL out of a country that's not at war with us (Nigeria).
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:36 AM
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I fill my tank up maybe once every 6 weeks if that. i always thought that it should have been more expenxive. poeple rely too much on their cars and commute too much. instead of all that money going to ceo's and big oil we should have been giving that money to say, septa. septa would make more money, the schools would get their 42MILL owed and we would have cleaner air. the only way its going to get better is if gas does go up. we have had it EXTREMELY cheap and it has made us more vulnerable
Yeah...you're right. Us unimportant jerk-offs with jobs outside of the City or commutable suburbs should just revamp life. So what if you fill up 4 times a week?! You should've seen this coming 20 years out!

Brilliant.

We should abandon rail and truck freight too and have unicorns bring all of our goods to us.

I'd love to go out and buy a Hybrid today, but--you're not gonna believe this--I don't have that kind of money laying around. Am I supposed to change my life because you want to out price everyone because of some underlying guilt you have about using petroleum?
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:48 AM
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The first stage is anger, then denial.

Once you get over that--it won't be so bad.

There's the Honda Civic hybrid btw, which isn't a bad car, and girls won't think you're gay if you drive one unlike a Prius.

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Yeah...you're right. Us unimportant jerk-offs with jobs outside of the City or commutable suburbs should just revamp life. So what if you fill up 4 times a week?! You should've seen this coming 20 years out!

Brilliant.

We should abandon rail and truck freight too and have unicorns bring all of our goods to us.

I'd love to go out and buy a Hybrid today, but--you're not gonna believe this--I don't have that kind of money laying around. Am I supposed to change my life because you want to out price everyone because of some underlying guilt you have about using petroleum?
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:53 AM
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There's the Honda Civic hybrid btw, which isn't a bad car, and girls won't think you're gay if you drive one unlike a Prius.
huh...funny how much better looking that Prius thing gets every time I break out the ole' gas card.

It doesn't make them any cheaper though.
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Old 06-09-2008, 10:03 AM
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When demand goes down, prices will, but that isn't really up to Americans. Jimmy Carter wasn't so crazy after all.
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