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Old 06-04-2008, 07:58 PM
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If he is only a professor and not a practicing attorney, his words don't hold that much weight. Sorry.
Sorry, but your answer just doesn't make much sense. I had professors in law school that literally wrote the book on evidence. They every bit as, if not more, competent that a practicing attorney.
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This really applies only if you are a suspect. If you are not a suspect and the police ask for information and refuse to cooperate you can be committing a crime of withholding evidence.
Really?
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I believe he also mentioned people who were not suspects actually getting caught up as well.

You have to watch the video... it's great stuff.
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cool...I'l check it out when I get home tonight.

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL... very funny. What can I say, I'm a a product of hip hop.

Anyway.....

Here is the video... (the site must have removed the video link).
Again, he's a prof of law and a former Attorney....

Great stuff!!
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Law Professor James Duane explains why innocent people should never talk to the police.

1. There is no way it can help

2. If your client is guilty- and even if he is innocent- he may admit his guilt with no benefit in return

3. Even if yiour client is innocent and denies his guilt and mostly tells the truth, he can easily egt carried away and tell some little lie or make some little mistake that will hang him

4. Even if your client ios innocent and only tells the truth, he will always give the police some information that can be used to help convict him

5. Even if your client is innocent and only tells the truth and does not tell the police anything incriminating, there is still a grave chance that his answers can be used to crucify him if the police don't recall his testimony with 100% accuracy

6. Even if your client is innocent and only tells the truth and does not tell the police anytbhing incriminating and his statement is videotaped, his answersx can be used to crucify him if the police don't recall the questions with 100% accuracy

7. Even if your client is innocent and only tells the truth and doers not tell the police anything incriminating and the entire interview is videotaped, his answers can still be used to crucify him if the police have any evidence, even mistaken or unreliable evidence, even if any of his statements are false. (ex Martha Stewart, Marion Jones)

Believe it or not, courts appear to be all over the place as to whether pre-arrest silence can be used at trial to incriminate someone. Last time I looked at this issue some federal circuit courts have held that it can be used by the prosection to infer guilt. Other circuit courts have held that such use would violate the Fifth Amendment. State courts are all over the place. So the advice may or may not be good depending on where you are. If you refuse to talk to the police the obvious inference is that you have somthing to hide.
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Law Professor James Duane explains why innocent people should never talk to the police.

1. There is no way it can help

2. If your client is guilty- and even if he is innocent- he may admit his guilt with no benefit in return

3. Even if yiour client is innocent and denies his guilt and mostly tells the truth, he can easily egt carried away and tell some little lie or make some little mistake that will hang him

4. Even if your client ios innocent and only tells the truth, he will always give the police some information that can be used to help convict him

5. Even if your client is innocent and only tells the truth and does not tell the police anything incriminating, there is still a grave chance that his answers can be used to crucify him if the police don't recall his testimony with 100% accuracy

6. Even if your client is innocent and only tells the truth and does not tell the police anytbhing incriminating and his statement is videotaped, his answersx can be used to crucify him if the police don't recall the questions with 100% accuracy

7. Even if your client is innocent and only tells the truth and doers not tell the police anything incriminating and the entire interview is videotaped, his answers can still be used to crucify him if the police have any evidence, even mistaken or unreliable evidence, even if any of his statements are false. (ex Martha Stewart, Marion Jones)
I think most shooting victims in philly have taken his advice. Seems to be working out really well. Only they call it stop snitchin'.

See, when you owe a drug dealer money and he shoots you in the lower body to let you know it's time to pay up, you go to the hospital and while there tell police that "once upon a time" you heard gun shots and, surprise, surprise, suddenly realized you were bleeding . . . .
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