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Old 05-28-2008, 10:39 AM
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again we are on list of the worse. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6169422

and amazingly the people who are not censured agree with the ratings
This shows our politicians are totally out of touch with most of the nation. People say its trashy, people can't get an education, thousands of shootings, little after school programs, and of course the most asthma and respiratory disease and commercials for health care, . Sirens and helicopters going off all day. I didn't write this report either

The worse thing is this city could have better education and ways to combat crime and get rid of the polluters and do more for greener city but our politicians don't do anything. Maybe they need to freakin open their eyes . Finally go to airnow.gov and see how many cities have good air and one day they will prove pollution broke down our ability to do better but so many people would rather get sick then complain to their politicians. Even the politicians I promised to show link after link to bad things and how they must know how things are connected they are not interested! Why ?

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again we are on list of the worse. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6169422

and amazingly the people who are not censured agree with the ratings
This shows our politicians are totally out of touch with most of the nation. People say its trashy, people can't get an education, thousands of shootings, little after school programs, and of course the most asthma and respiratory disease and commercials for health care, . Sirens and helicopters going off all day. I didn't write this report either

The worse thing is this city could have better education and ways to combat crime and get rid of the polluters and do more for greener city but our politicians don't do anything. Maybe they need to freakin open their eyes . Finally go to airnow.gov and see how many cities have good air and one day they will prove pollution broke down our ability to do better but so many people would rather get sick then complain to their politicians. Even the politicians I promised to show link after link to bad things and how they must know how things are connected they are not interested! Why ?
I was born & bred in this City. I grew up with dirty, pot holed streets, smoke & smog filled the air, streams, creeks & the rivers were so dirty you couldn't fish let alone swim in them,in a neighborhood that only saw a politician when election day was near.
Still the people were friendly, if there was a dispute they settled it, sometimes with a donnybrook, yet always ending with a handshake. I have seen the ethnic changes in many areas of our City and listened to the talk how it was going to ruin this or that, but the City has grown and prospered.
The new people are just as friendly as the old; once one gets past ideologies we are raised with. The streets are cleaner, pot holes for the most part are repaired within days. The politicians still visit our neighborhood on rare occassions. But I have to give Frank Rizzo and Angel Cruz their due both have responded to my requests quickly and efficiently. I can't say the same for Marge Tartaglione even though like her I am handicapped; when I went to her for assistance on acquiring a handicapped parking permit I was told to come back another time.
Yes, we have problems in our City of close to 2 million people. But these too have lessened. Commissioner Ramsey is working on two fronts; the crime problem & police abuse successfully.

When I want to know how our City is I look around me, I see kids going to school cheerfully and dressed in a more proper way. I see hardworking men & women up and out every day, yet they still have the time to stop and chat. I see neighbors who gather to discuss various area problems and settle on a legal course of action. I see the rivers & streams becoming so clean the varieties of fish have increased. I see vitality in the step of our citizens and determination in the faces of our youth.
Yes there are some who try to use our corners for drugs, others who use the street for a repair garage or used car sale lot and some who fill their dumpsters till the rubbish scatters up & down the street but these are all discouraged. I know a more aggressive anti-littering campaign needs to be implemented where both adults and children can be taught the importance of holding onto the trash until you can place it in a receptacle.
I don't look at the pollsters or their results. Most of them have skewed their questions to get the answer they have been hired for.
ie: answer wanted: People don't eat apples
their Question: 'How many green apples do you eat a day?'
possibile answers, You don't eat apples (none) or You don't eat apples everday (none)and when you do eat apples they are generally the most common the red apple not green (none).
Poll result: 99% of the public doesn't eat apples.
Yeah for the orange, grapefruit, blueberry, strawberry, cranberry, banana and all the other fruit industries.
My forefathers were raised here, I have raised my children here and they in turn are raising my grandchildren here. Philadelphia is aptly named the City of Brotherly Love.
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I was born & bred in this City. I grew up with dirty, pot holed streets, smoke & smog filled the air, streams, creeks & the rivers were so dirty you couldn't fish let alone swim in them,in a neighborhood that only saw a politician when election day was near.
Still the people were friendly, if there was a dispute they settled it, sometimes with a donnybrook, yet always ending with a handshake. I have seen the ethnic changes in many areas of our City and listened to the talk how it was going to ruin this or that, but the City has grown and prospered.
The new people are just as friendly as the old; once one gets past ideologies we are raised with. The streets are cleaner, pot holes for the most part are repaired within days. The politicians still visit our neighborhood on rare occassions. But I have to give Frank Rizzo and Angel Cruz their due both have responded to my requests quickly and efficiently. I can't say the same for Marge Tartaglione even though like her I am handicapped; when I went to her for assistance on acquiring a handicapped parking permit I was told to come back another time.
Yes, we have problems in our City of close to 2 million people. But these too have lessened. Commissioner Ramsey is working on two fronts; the crime problem & police abuse successfully.

When I want to know how our City is I look around me, I see kids going to school cheerfully and dressed in a more proper way. I see hardworking men & women up and out every day, yet they still have the time to stop and chat. I see neighbors who gather to discuss various area problems and settle on a legal course of action. I see the rivers & streams becoming so clean the varieties of fish have increased. I see vitality in the step of our citizens and determination in the faces of our youth.
Yes there are some who try to use our corners for drugs, others who use the street for a repair garage or used car sale lot and some who fill their dumpsters till the rubbish scatters up & down the street but these are all discouraged. I know a more aggressive anti-littering campaign needs to be implemented where both adults and children can be taught the importance of holding onto the trash until you can place it in a receptacle.
I don't look at the pollsters or their results. Most of them have skewed their questions to get the answer they have been hired for.
ie: answer wanted: People don't eat apples
their Question: 'How many green apples do you eat a day?'
possibile answers, You don't eat apples (none) or You don't eat apples everday (none)and when you do eat apples they are generally the most common the red apple not green (none).
Poll result: 99% of the public doesn't eat apples.
Yeah for the orange, grapefruit, blueberry, strawberry, cranberry, banana and all the other fruit industries.
My forefathers were raised here, I have raised my children here and they in turn are raising my grandchildren here. Philadelphia is aptly named the City of Brotherly Love.
No matter what you say or how you say it, Packer doesn't care. He will
continue to bring up and cite anything negative he can say about the city.
Then he will automatically include another missive about local air pollution.

My family, too, has a very long history in the area going back nearly 100 years
and now totally 5 generations(4 generations still living). Sure, we've all
gone through good times and bad times(my parents and grandparents
endured the Great Depression) but overall being here has been advantageous
for all of us.
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I can think of plenty of worse places to try to raise a family: in a pig's colon, for example.

Or in a hole in the ground, covered with a bit of tarpaulin.
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again we are on list of the worse. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6169422

and amazingly the people who are not censured agree with the ratings
This shows our politicians are totally out of touch with most of the nation. People say its trashy, people can't get an education, thousands of shootings, little after school programs, and of course the most asthma and respiratory disease and commercials for health care, . Sirens and helicopters going off all day. I didn't write this report either

The worse thing is this city could have better education and ways to combat crime and get rid of the polluters and do more for greener city but our politicians don't do anything. Maybe they need to freakin open their eyes . Finally go to airnow.gov and see how many cities have good air and one day they will prove pollution broke down our ability to do better but so many people would rather get sick then complain to their politicians. Even the politicians I promised to show link after link to bad things and how they must know how things are connected they are not interested! Why ?
Who don't know that???? Why do you think eveybody with kids moved to the burbs....
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I was born & bred in this City. I grew up with dirty, pot holed streets, smoke & smog filled the air, streams, creeks & the rivers were so dirty you couldn't fish let alone swim in them,in a neighborhood that only saw a politician when election day was near.
Still the people were friendly, if there was a dispute they settled it, sometimes with a donnybrook, yet always ending with a handshake. I have seen the ethnic changes in many areas of our City and listened to the talk how it was going to ruin this or that, but the City has grown and prospered.
The new people are just as friendly as the old; once one gets past ideologies we are raised with. The streets are cleaner, pot holes for the most part are repaired within days. The politicians still visit our neighborhood on rare occassions. But I have to give Frank Rizzo and Angel Cruz their due both have responded to my requests quickly and efficiently. I can't say the same for Marge Tartaglione even though like her I am handicapped; when I went to her for assistance on acquiring a handicapped parking permit I was told to come back another time.
Yes, we have problems in our City of close to 2 million people. But these too have lessened. Commissioner Ramsey is working on two fronts; the crime problem & police abuse successfully.

When I want to know how our City is I look around me, I see kids going to school cheerfully and dressed in a more proper way. I see hardworking men & women up and out every day, yet they still have the time to stop and chat. I see neighbors who gather to discuss various area problems and settle on a legal course of action. I see the rivers & streams becoming so clean the varieties of fish have increased. I see vitality in the step of our citizens and determination in the faces of our youth.
Yes there are some who try to use our corners for drugs, others who use the street for a repair garage or used car sale lot and some who fill their dumpsters till the rubbish scatters up & down the street but these are all discouraged. I know a more aggressive anti-littering campaign needs to be implemented where both adults and children can be taught the importance of holding onto the trash until you can place it in a receptacle.
I don't look at the pollsters or their results. Most of them have skewed their questions to get the answer they have been hired for.
ie: answer wanted: People don't eat apples
their Question: 'How many green apples do you eat a day?'
possibile answers, You don't eat apples (none) or You don't eat apples everday (none)and when you do eat apples they are generally the most common the red apple not green (none).
Poll result: 99% of the public doesn't eat apples.
Yeah for the orange, grapefruit, blueberry, strawberry, cranberry, banana and all the other fruit industries.
My forefathers were raised here, I have raised my children here and they in turn are raising my grandchildren here. Philadelphia is aptly named the City of Brotherly Love.
Perhaps you and Karen live in a world that is different then what many others think. I always suggest if you like where you live then it don't matter what (now hold your breath for this one) city has the most asthma and depression and least amount of good air days, or has hundreds of thousands being harmed from pollution or f rated air or has more cancers and heart disease, or don't have close to 40 percent of their kid graduating or worrying what happens to those kids,,, maybe you and karen think they make this city the next greatest.. It don't matter if there are thousands of people shot in the city each year either or if we are ranked at the bottom of the list for places to bring up kids, other peoples preceptions of fast drivers or people being mean spirited, because at a certain point you see what you want to see and ignore other peoples perceptions or pain who are probably more objective because those people base their reactions on comparisons and facts imagine that . Sure there are good people here and there are good other things but without any real changes there is only going to be more negative ratings for people to absorb and many people complaining because they can't afford to move.All karen has is to focus on me. As for the clean water lol
your assumption about eating the fish caught in our rivers is your call and here again your world is probably a far different world then mine. Me ? , when I look at the Delaware and see all the people who ARE not fishing , compared to other places and read about our poor water that is suppose to be drinkable, that should be a clue to you how wrong you are about the clean waters around here. If they didn't stock the streams there would probably not be a fish alive . There are hundreds of links of things Karen has yet to negate except to worry about me moving or my grammer. This new study and all the people who commented didn't have a chance to be censured either like Karen would like if she had her website ways..I am surprised channel six even published that study...usually they are in as much denial as karen is..
Ps there are not occasional number of kids on street corners selling drugs. There are thousands

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Perhaps you and Karen live in a world that is different then what many others think. I always suggest if you like where you live then it don't matter what (now hold your breath for this one) city has the most asthma and depression and least amount of good air days, or has hundreds of thousands being harmed from pollution or f rated air or has more cancers and heart disease, or don't have close to 40 percent of their kid graduating or worrying what happens to those kids,,, maybe you and karen think they make this city the next greatest.. It don't matter if there are thousands of people shot in the city each year either or if we are ranked at the bottom of the list for places to bring up kids, other peoples preceptions of fast drivers or people being mean spirited, because at a certain point you see what you want to see and ignore other peoples perceptions or pain who are probably more objective because those people base their reactions on comparisons and facts imagine that . Sure there are good people here and there are good other things but without any real changes there is only going to be more negative ratings for people to absorb and many people complaining because they can't afford to move.All karen has is to focus on me. As for the clean water lol
your assumption about eating the fish caught in our rivers is your call and here again your world is probably a far different world then mine. Me ? , when I look at the Delaware and see all the people who ARE not fishing , compared to other places and read about our poor water that is suppose to be drinkable, that should be a clue to you how wrong you are about the clean waters around here. If they didn't stock the streams there would probably not be a fish alive . There are hundreds of links of things Karen has yet to negate except to worry about me moving or my grammer. This new study and all the people who commented didn't have a chance to be censured either like Karen would like if she had her website ways..I am surprised channel six even published that study...usually they are in as much denial as karen is..
Ps there are not occasional number of kids on street corners selling drugs. There are thousands
Classic. Just classic.

Some of my family live smack dab in the middle of what
is now "ghetto". I don't avoid those areas or them. If I was in so much denial,
Steve-ie-boy, I would just hide in Chester Co.
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