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Old 05-31-2008, 05:31 PM
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over 200000 people in Philly area haver respiratory disease from pollution, this is what families are given from our role models. and get this karen the report from researchers said smoking aside meaning smoking was not the cause for the illness .
airnow.gov
If you want that link again from that study email me

another study said even exposure for short periods can kill and this should be sent to all parents who send their kids to Universities in area. I know I am sure going to try as many as I can reach.
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another study said even exposure for short periods can kill and this should be sent to all parents who send their kids to Universities in area. I know I am sure going to try as many as I can reach.
Who did this study? The National Bureau of Making sh!t up? I'd love to see it.

I grew up in the city; I have asthma. So does my father; he grew up on a farm. So did his father; he grew up on a farm. So did his father; he was a coal miner when he was a boy.

Do you think I have asthma because I grew up in the city, my father and grandfather have it because they grew up on farms, and my great grandfather had it because he was a breaker boy?

Or do you think that maybe genetics played a role?
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:24 PM
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Making this shi? up?
Na... I couldn't possibly make hundreds of links up but you didn't see this in your local news did you Simon? Maybe you better stop relying on tv news to give you your facts. You can tell Karen there are links that exist that don't include Larry Mendte . Larry is Karens favorite news person . Of course she don't watch the news . Many of the links have been censured from this board incidentally so read em while you can.


there has been much more studies in past year then years before.
All you got to do is read thru all the links to particulate and ozone pollution
I posted so many links and recently lost allot of them.
but read this
The air pollution threat may be invisible, but it is real-we know it can
sicken, and we know it can kill," said Carolyn Wisniewski, Vice President
for the American Lung Association of Pennsylvania. Wisniewski estimated that
about 400,000 persons with chronic lung disease and nearly 900,000 people
with heart disease were at special risk from air pollution in the 5-county
Southeastern Pennsylvania area.
"A large study released this month in the New England Journal of Medicine
documented that children living in polluted areas have a five fold greater
risk of decreased lung function," said Dr. Joel Chinitz with Philadelphia
Physicians for Social Responsibility. "This impairment occurred independent
of asthma or smoking."

"Eighty-eight percent of Pennsylvanians live in areas that do not meet the
federal government's basic air quality standards," said Arthur Stamoulis,
Policy Analyst for Clean Air Council. "If we really want to protect the
health of our children, power plants must be required to install modern
pollution controls."

"I am the mother of two young sons, both asthmatics. I may not be a
scientist, but I do know this-the health rooms in each of our district
schools has cabinets devoted to just inhalers; all alphabetized, because
there are so many," stated Lisa Graves Marcucci of Jefferson Action Group,
Inc. Marcucci challenged all elected officials and regulators "to let
science and medical facts dictate policy instead of corporate money."

"The high levels of ozone and particulate matter in the Pittsburgh area and
statewide should act as an alarm to our state and local government
officials," said Elizabeth Rosemeyer, policy and outreach coordinator for
Group Against Smog and Pollution (G.A.S.P.). "This report points to the need
for strong regulations to protect the health and welfare of our residents."

"President Bush is shortchanging the health of Allentown residents with the
breaks he keeps giving to big business, especially the power plants and
other polluters. Allentown residents need to send a strong message to
Washington that the health of our children is not for sale," said Alisa
Bauman, Chair of the Lehigh Valley Sierra Club.

"Danger in the Air: Unhealthy Levels of Air Pollution in 2003" is
PennEnvironment's fifth annual analysis of air quality based on a survey of
environmental agencies in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. For
the first time, the report examines levels of fine particle "soot" pollution
in addition to ozone "smog" pollution. Key Pennsylvania findings include the
following:

- Pennsylvania ranked fourth nationwide for the worst year-round soot
pollution and second for the most spikes in soot pollution in 2003.
Pittsburgh and Philadelphia ranked fifth and 13th respectively for the
highest year-round soot pollution among major U.S. cities in 2003.
Lancaster, York-Hanover, Harrisburg-Carlisle, Reading, and Allentown
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"Eighty-eight percent of Pennsylvanians live in areas that do not meet the
federal government's basic air quality standards," said Arthur Stamoulis,
Policy Analyst for Clean Air Council.
Um, if this affects 85 percent of the state's population, then it's not just an urban issue; it's a suburban and rural one as well.

You have just been hoisted by your own petard.

That said, if you want to cut down on air pollution, get rid of your car and tell your congressperson you want the SPA to do its job.
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Default Philadelphis ranked one of the worst places to raise a family

http://www.bestlifeonline.com/cms/pu...a_Family.shtml

Notice that it's the only major city on the "worst of" list. Even Detroit didn't make the list!!!!

So you mean to say that families don't like high crime rates, failing schools, crumbling neighborhoods, and trash?!?!
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This place has really got you hasn't it? It is really under your skin. You just cannot leave Philly behind. You act like a jilted lover. Always looking back to keep tabs on the one that got away. Wanting validation that you made the right choice to leave. You just cannot move on can you? What is lacking in your new situation pal?
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I'm not the one who gave it this ranking. I thought that the readers of PHILLYblog might be interested in a national ranking about PHILLY. Why would I post this on another city's blog?

Don't kill the messenger.
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I think that one of the aspects people making these lists should think about is the economy of the city. How great is it to have museums and a shorter commute to work--if you can't find a job. Many of these places also have zero public transportation.

I know for a fact that 3 cities on the list have serious employment issues. I personally think that Phoenix and Glendale, AZ stink because kids can't go outside and play from May-late September. Also, guess what their lawns are made of--rocks.
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LOL, I can't find Philly on the list. Could I be in denial and blocking it out.

Our school system could be drastically improved-a lot of people leave Philly because of their kids growing up and they don't want them to go to our schools.
It's ashame. We lose a lot of people because of just the schools alone. I imagine many more because of high crime rates and trash.
Foodie hasn't said anything that's not true.
Maybe if you're rich you can get by alright without having to worry about these things but for most it's an annoying reality we live everyday. If I had kids, no, I would not be living in Philly unless I could afford to live in one of the rich sections like Center City, Society Hill...
What number are we listed at? I can't find it.
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