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Old 05-19-2008, 09:28 PM
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Black folks are still waiting on an offical apology from this country that will never happen.
If that's true, it's pretty sad.

How, exactly, does a "country" apologize? Are you not a citizen of this country? If it would involve those presently living here as citizens, would you then be apologizing to yourself?

Using the same reasoning, should you be apologizing for the conduct of all black criminals throughout history?

I really don't care about the answers but what I do care about is a seemingly large group of people who can't get past this odd learned victimhood and, IMHO, are thereby limiting their own potential.

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I don't think anybody makes Al scream anything. I don't see how Al Sharpton apologizing for putting his foot in his mouth would make anyone feel better. Black folks are still waiting on an offical apology from this country that will never happen. I personally wouldn't call him a leader but he was pretty much doing the same thing during the Civil Rights period.[/quote]

Apparently your not aware Sharpton is only 53yo, doubt he was doing anything productive during the Civil Rights Period.
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Is that the same young man who already had a conviction for violent assault? His prior criminal record wasn't the issue. The issue was wether the young men deserved an attempted murder charge or not. What do I care what the families waste their money on?

You also could have added Wesly Snipes and Ronald Isley to your list!
There are two reasons why people should be upset about how the families spent that money. First of all, the people that contributed toward that $400,000 were lead to believe they were contributing to a legal defense fund for the Jena 6. When the Jena 6 lawyers agreed to work pro-bono, the money should have been returned to the contributors or maintained in some type of trust.

Secondly, the black and liberal communities are forever screaming that there are little educational opportunties for blacks. But here you have a situation where families were given money that could probably cover most of a college education. (Being a minority students, I'm sure they would have no problem getting financial aid to cover the balance of tuition and books). But yet, they choose to buy SUVs, jewelry, HD TVs, or simply pose on MySpace with a stack of $100 bills in between their teeth.
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If that's true, it's pretty sad.

How, exactly, does a "country" apologize? Are you not a citizen of this country? If it would involve those presently living here as citizens, would you then be apologizing to yourself?

Using the same reasoning, should you be apologizing for the conduct of all black criminals throughout history?

I really don't care about the answers but what I do care about is a seemingly large group of people who can't get past this odd learned victimhood and, IMHO, are thereby limiting their own potential.

If you want to go through life with a chip on your shoulder, most people won't bother knocking it off. They'll just tend to tune you out.
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I don't think anybody makes Al scream anything. I don't see how Al Sharpton apologizing for putting his foot in his mouth would make anyone feel better. Black folks are still waiting on an offical apology from this country that will never happen. I personally wouldn't call him a leader but he was pretty much doing the same thing during the Civil Rights period.
Apparently your not aware Sharpton is only 53yo, doubt he was doing anything productive during the Civil Rights Period.[/quote]

Poor Al. He was Born about fifteen years too late to catch that movement!
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Well, the people who contributed should have done a better job finding how what the money would be used for. I don't know any of the families social-economic status, but most people given a large sum of money do not spend it wisely. When I give money to homeless people, I would like for them to do something wise with it, but that is not always the case.

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You mean that they should have took that money and invested it in school even though they more than likely had a sub-par education with the public school system that in no way has set them up to thrive in college so that they'll be dropouts before the second semester? They probably wouldn't be eligible for financial aid if any of them have a felony.

I'm quite sure you didn't donate any money to them so why all the animosity? You can't force someone to want better than they have.
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I don't think anybody makes Al scream anything. I don't see how Al Sharpton apologizing for putting his foot in his mouth would make anyone feel better. Black folks are still waiting on an offical apology from this country that will never happen. I personally wouldn't call him a leader but he was pretty much doing the same thing during the Civil Rights period.
Apparently your not aware Sharpton is only 53yo, doubt he was doing anything productive during the Civil Rights Period.[/quote]

I stand corrected. Maybe when Jesse Jackson appointed him youth director of Operation Breadbasket, is when he started working for rights.
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I stand corrected. Maybe when Jesse Jackson appointed him youth director of Operation Breadbasket, is when he started working for rights.
Jesse Jackson who literally made a show of having the dying MLK's blood on his shirt??? The Jesse Jackson who initiated a boycott against Budweiser (google "Bud is a Dud") only to abandon the efforts when his sons were awarded a lucrative beer distributorship. He's a ****ing poverty pimp too.

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Well, the people who contributed should have done a better job finding how what the money would be used for. I don't know any of the families social-economic status, but most people given a large sum of money do not spend it wisely. When I give money to homeless people, I would like for them to do something wise with it, but that is not always the case.



You mean that they should have took that money and invested it in school even though they more than likely had a sub-par education with the public school system that in no way has set them up to thrive in college so that they'll be dropouts before the second semester? They probably wouldn't be eligible for financial aid if any of them have a felony.

I'm quite sure you didn't donate any money to them so why all the animosity? You can't force someone to want better than they have.
My animoisty is driven by the fact that the media is about to embark on another campaign of turning criminals into heroes, much like they did with Rodney King, the Jena 6, and the muggers of Bernard Goetz.
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My animoisty is driven by the fact that the media is about to embark on another campaign of turning criminals into heroes, much like they did with Rodney King, the Jena 6, and the muggers of Bernard Goetz.
Neither Rodney King or the Jena 6 were any type of heroes in my book. The problem with both of those examples is that the police and the d.a. went far beyond what was needed. Now the fact that people made those situations race issues, does not suprise me. But alot of the blame can be put on the media. What confuses me about most people's gripes about the three men beaten is that some how speaking out against police brutality means that you are defending the criminals. Couldn't be farther from the truth. People are made at the media for showing the footage, but it's the media. People would have gone ballistic if the news didn't show the murdered officers picture every 5 minutes. Why the double-standard?
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