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Not calling you a liar, I just can't find it on the site because even Al Sharpton appeared to steer away from this case once he researched the "victims." He was very quiet on CNN.

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Personally I thought the whole incident was a bunch of nonsense, but then again nobody asked the guv to speed down the highway either. I hope Rendell was watching.
Good, means we can understand each other. Rendell probably wasn't watching as he was too busy leasing off the states soul (Turnpike) to a foreign company this week.

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Please, so your saying that none of those guys involved in that scandal, have been able to attend another school? I highly doubt that since alot of them seemed to come from money. God-forbid they can't go back to mommie or daddie's school.
No I am saying those kids should not have been put into that situation to begin with. It started because the DA was trying to make it a racial issue because most of his constuents were black and he was seeking re-election. Jessie Jackson went down and Sharpton went on Bill O'Reilly praising the DA. When the facts came out, silence.

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Why are you asking me why he didn't apologize? Do I look like his spokesman or something?

No, I am just saying I don't believe he should be getting involved with these things, and if he is, then get COMPLETELY involved. If your going to march because three suspects got beat, why not march against WHY those suspects got beat, THE ACTUAL SHOOTING.
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This is the only article I can find from Saturday's Daily news. I can't find anything about a mother being denied access to her son. But then again I can only bring up articles from the search thread. And I have tried bringing up searchs for "cop beating" "al sharpton". From what I can recall, Sharpton was claiming this was "worst than Rodney King" initially, but once he started hearing facts, he back down when he was on CNN.


4 Police were fired, beatings happened, I am not disputing that. What I want to know is why people keep calling "rev" Al to show up and scream stuff like "Worst than Rodney King" when it obviously is not. How come there is never a simple "I am sorry" whenever he is wrong? Yet he is still regarded as a CIVIL no just Black rights leader?
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Oh my! I didn't expect that.
Comm. Johnson would have never did that!
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Al Sharpton was asked to come here by one of the victims family, I think the one with the most severe injuries. I could be wrong about that, but from what I heard, the mother was denied access to seeing her child, but when Al Sharpton came down she was able to finally see him. Don't know how accurate that is but thats what I read in the paper.

Alot of folks take issue with Al Sharpton taking advantage of racial issues, but at least it can be said that a spotlight is put on issues he comes to march about. Regardless of what people felt about the case in Louisiana, those boys still would have been in jail if people like Al Sharpton didn't cause a ruckus.
Yeah, it is a good thing that Sharpton got the Jena 6 out of jail. It gave at least one of them the opportunity to get arrested again a few months ago. What's that you say? You didn't hear about that? Well it's true, one of the Jena 6 civil rights heroes was arrested for a violent assault at his new school. I guess it was also a good thing that the $400,000 that was donated to the Jena 6 was used to buy new cars, jewelry, and electronics for the Jena 6 "victims" and their moms.

And let's not forget Sharpton's other great contributions to society:

- wasted millions of taxpayer dollars and ruined the reputation of many innocent people in the Tawanna Brawley case

- wasted millions more taxpayer dollars and ruined the lives of several young student athletes in the fraudulent Duke rape case.

- Not paying income tax on millions of dollars of his income.

Keep up the great work, Al! We're glad you're out there fighting for us!
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I can't find anything about a mother being denied access to her son.
The mother should have been denied access to her son until after they both provided sworn testimony as to the whole alibi they appear to have concocted (yeah, you can't compel the accused to testify against himself, but an alibi defense is just that -- a defense. If he wants to use it he has to testify as to what it is. Now he and his mom have the story straight between them -- just wonderful. More murderers back on the street).
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Alot of folks take issue with Al Sharpton taking advantage of racial issues, but at least it can be said that a spotlight is put on issues he comes to march about. Regardless of what people felt about the case in Louisiana, those boys still would have been in jail if people like Al Sharpton didn't cause a ruckus.
They would still be in jail, where they belong for, without justification, beating a man unconscious and appear to have only stopped beating him because they thought he was dead. Yes, people like that belong in jail.
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Not calling you a liar, I just can't find it on the site because even Al Sharpton appeared to steer away from this case once he researched the "victims." He was very quiet on CNN.
Thanks! I appreciate that!lol. I think the date was the 3rd or the 10th. I think Al Sharpton was in jail or getting out so he probably didn't read everything about the case. But like I was told, usually someone in the family asks him to come.


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Please, so your saying that none of those guys involved in that scandal, have been able to attend another school? I highly doubt that since alot of them seemed to come from money. God-forbid they can't go back to mommie or daddie's school.

No I am saying those kids should not have been put into that situation to begin with. It started because the DA was trying to make it a racial issue because most of his constuents were black and he was seeking re-election. Jessie Jackson went down and Sharpton went on Bill O'Reilly praising the DA. When the facts came out, silence.
Well you can't just put all the blame on Sharpton and the DA. The media had a part to play as well, as they do in alot of issues. I thought it was horrible that they would plaster their faces on the news without a guilty verdict. Pretty much painting the guys as monsters before they were tried. And if Al Sharpton needs to apologize for that incident, then so do a whole lot of others.


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Why are you asking me why he didn't apologize? Do I look like his spokesman or something?

No, I am just saying I don't believe he should be getting involved with these things, and if he is, then get COMPLETELY involved. If your going to march because three suspects got beat, why not march against WHY those suspects got beat, THE ACTUAL SHOOTING.
Al Sharpton is probably a little bit older than one of my Black Panther uncles, so he probably sees a conspiracy and raced involved in every incident. So with that, some people probably expect him to speak out against certain things. It's funny because when incidents like the beating happen, white folks roll their eyes and say," Here comes Al or Jesse", and black folks wait to here what one of those people will say. Very different perspectives.


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This is the only article I can find from Saturday's Daily news. I can't find anything about a mother being denied access to her son. But then again I can only bring up articles from the search thread. And I have tried bringing up searchs for "cop beating" "al sharpton". From what I can recall, Sharpton was claiming this was "worst than Rodney King" initially, but once he started hearing facts, he back down when he was on CNN.
"Worst than Rodney King", was a bit hyperbolic. I don't think those men got anywhere near the beating Rodney did. Do you remember the picture? It seems like you have to say outrageous things to get on the news and it looked like it worked for him again.

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4 Police were fired, beatings happened, I am not disputing that. What I want to know is why people keep calling "rev" Al to show up and scream stuff like "Worst than Rodney King" when it obviously is not. How come there is never a simple "I am sorry" whenever he is wrong? Yet he is still regarded as a CIVIL no just Black rights leader?
I don't think anybody makes Al scream anything. I don't see how Al Sharpton apologizing for putting his foot in his mouth would make anyone feel better. Black folks are still waiting on an offical apology from this country that will never happen. I personally wouldn't call him a leader but he was pretty much doing the same thing during the Civil Rights period.
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Yeah, it is a good thing that Sharpton got the Jena 6 out of jail. It gave at least one of them the opportunity to get arrested again a few months ago. What's that you say? You didn't hear about that? Well it's true, one of the Jena 6 civil rights heroes was arrested for a violent assault at his new school. I guess it was also a good thing that the $400,000 that was donated to the Jena 6 was used to buy new cars, jewelry, and electronics for the Jena 6 "victims" and their moms.
Is that the same young man who already had a conviction for violent assault? His prior criminal record wasn't the issue. The issue was wether the young men deserved an attempted murder charge or not. What do I care what the families waste their money on?

You also could have added Wesly Snipes and Ronald Isley to your list!
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The mother should have been denied access to her son until after they both provided sworn testimony as to the whole alibi they appear to have concocted (yeah, you can't compel the accused to testify against himself, but an alibi defense is just that -- a defense. If he wants to use it he has to testify as to what it is. Now he and his mom have the story straight between them -- just wonderful. More murderers back on the street).

She concocted an alibi with her son? I thought that the son had an alibi with mother of person who was killed? Let's not forget about the holes in the story from the NARCOTIC officers who originally saw 4 people in a car, which was reduced down to 3. There are issues with both sides of the story.
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She concocted an alibi with her son? I thought that the son had an alibi with mother of person who was killed? Let's not forget about the holes in the story from the NARCOTIC officers who originally saw 4 people in a car, which was reduced down to 3. There are issues with both sides of the story.
There are issues. I'm just providing perspective as to why a bunch of guys accused of attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder might not be allowed visitors.
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