COP Beating Cover Up? - Page 5 - PhillyBlog

Tannhauser · #41 (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 10:17 PM

What I find amazing about this whole story, is that it's virtually forgotten that three people were shot and the outrage seems to be centered on the fact that three thugs took a beat down after running from the police.

Talk about the racism of diminished expectations, it's almost as if some folks think that attempted murder is simply to be expected as normal behavior when it comes to young black males.

Of course Police are held to a higher standard, but why hold black males to such a shockingly low standard? Doesn't say a lot for the value placed on the lives of the three men who were shot either.

Shameful.

ADX · #42 (**permalink**) 05-18-2008, 12:08 PM

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Adx wrote:

Well the footage that I saw from the Fox helicopter was def. brutal. If you believe the suspects deserved it or not is another matter. I prefer to read the paper more than local news so I'm not aware of this incident being tied to race. I really only hear people on hear mentioning race. Most people I speak to about this just comment on the brutality of the offices and how excessive they were. No mention of race at all.

If you really want to go there with race over bruality then how come whenever a white woman is missing, her face can be plastered on every screen across the country, yet when the person is black she barely gets a mention. And how come you only hear about white women getting raped by black men and barely get a mention when a black man rapes a black woman? Is is someway to instill fear in white people?

Adx wrote:

You can disagree with me all you want, but I guarantee if you turn on the 11 o'clock news tonights that you will see at least 5 black men on the screen for some crime. And the only thing you might see about a white male is big branch falling on his garage. You say that the media tries to paint black men in a positive light yet I see the opposite. When I see the news report more about black men shooting each other than all the positive things black people do, it's a problem.

Last time I checked, the major news channels in our area did not glorify hip hop culture, nor do the papers.

If the police beating is not about race, why is Al Sharpton involved?

O.H. Lee · #43 (**permalink**) 05-18-2008, 02:11 PM

What exactly is Al Sharpton's function anyway ?

drewrob23 · #44 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ADX

If the police beating is not about race, why is Al Sharpton involved?

Al Sharpton was asked to come here by one of the victims family, I think the one with the most severe injuries. I could be wrong about that, but from what I heard, the mother was denied access to seeing her child, but when Al Sharpton came down she was able to finally see him. Don't know how accurate that is but thats what I read in the paper.

Alot of folks take issue with Al Sharpton taking advantage of racial issues, but at least it can be said that a spotlight is put on issues he comes to march about. Regardless of what people felt about the case in Louisiana, those boys still would have been in jail if people like Al Sharpton didn't cause a ruckus.

Mr. Brightside · #45 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 02:51 PM

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news...d_beating.html

drewrob23 · #46 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 02:54 PM

[/quote]Tann wrote:

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What I find amazing about this whole story, is that it's virtually forgotten that three people were shot and the outrage seems to be centered on the fact that three thugs took a beat down after running from the police.

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DID SOME people miss the front-page headlines when Officer Liczbinski was shot and killed in the line of duty?

How dare you criticize these police officers for brutalizing three Hunting Park criminals, let alone punish them by taking good officers off the street? I encourage the police to continue any violent efforts to save the streets of Philadelphia. They need to regain the respect of the community. If you don't want to be "beat up" by a cop, don't commit crimes.
was shot and killed in the line of duty?

How dare you criticize these police officers for brutalizing three Hunting Park criminals, let alone punish them by taking good officers off the street? I encourage the police to continue any violent efforts to save the streets of Philadelphia. They need to regain the respect of the community. If you don't want to be "beat up" by a cop, don't commit crimes.

That was part of an opinion in the paper today. This is the gist of what I'm getting from the majority on the board. It doesn't matter how the cops treated the "criminals"(even though they weren't even tried yet) because they deserved it regardless. Also everyone keeps trying to connect everything with the death of Ofc. Liczbinski. I personally think thats an insult to his memory, but whatever float people's boat.

Tann wrote:

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Talk about the racism of diminished expectations, it's almost as if some folks think that attempted murder is simply to be expected as normal behavior when it comes to young black males

Funny. Everytime I read this board that's exactly how I feel.

Tann wrote:

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Of course Police are held to a higher standard, but why hold black males to such a shockingly low standard? Doesn't say a lot for the value placed on the lives of the three men who were shot either.

The three men don't seem to put that much value on their own lives since they couldn't bother to come to court. Like we don't know what that means. Get the case thrown out so we can "handle" it ourselves.

If police where held to such a higher standard than how come people are accepting their behavior as normal? And don't give me that crap about them having a hard job and not knowing what it's like. I have alot of issues with this incident(on both sides) but what the cops did was horrible and they went beyond what was needed. Then again, with a issue like this you either support the cops or you don't. Any time you abuse your power, it makes it that much easier to do it again.

Towelie · #47 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by drewrob23

Al Sharpton was asked to come here by one of the victims family, I think the one with the most severe injuries. I could be wrong about that, but from what I heard, the mother was denied access to seeing her child, but when Al Sharpton came down she was able to finally see him. Don't know how accurate that is but thats what I read in the paper.

Which paper?

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Alot of folks take issue with Al Sharpton taking advantage of racial issues, but at least it can be said that a spotlight is put on issues he comes to march about.

Yea having the gov of NJ flip his car to attend a SUPER IMPORTANT meeting between Don Imus and the Rutgers Basketball team really is a great!!! Yea that solved a whole lot of racial issues!! Yea way to go Sharpton for focusing on a SHOCK JOCK!

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Regardless of what people felt about the case in Louisiana, those boys still would have been in jail if people like Al Sharpton didn't cause a ruckus.

Yea and I can name a few kids that would still be at school in Duke also. How come he still has yet to issue an apology for this?

drewrob23 · #48 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Brightside

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news...d_beating.html

Oh my! I didn't expect that.
Comm. Johnson would have never did that!

Towelie · #49 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Brightside

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news...d_beating.html

See justice works,

Now can we focus on the original shooting? Hello? Families that were raising hell in court for "justice"? Aren't you guys still looking for the truth in the actual shooting?

drewrob23 · #50 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 03:08 PM

Towelie wrote:

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Originally Posted by drewrob23

Al Sharpton was asked to come here by one of the victims family, I think the one with the most severe injuries. I could be wrong about that, but from what I heard, the mother was denied access to seeing her child, but when Al Sharpton came down she was able to finally see him. Don't know how accurate that is but thats what I read in the paper.

Which paper?

Daily News Saturday Edition.

Towelie wrote:

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Alot of folks take issue with Al Sharpton taking advantage of racial issues, but at least it can be said that a spotlight is put on issues he comes to march about.

Yea having the gov of NJ flip his car to attend a SUPER IMPORTANT meeting between Don Imus and the Rutgers Basketball team really is a great!!! Yea that solved a whole lot of racial issues!! Yea way to go Sharpton for focusing on a SHOCK JOCK!

Personally I thought the whole incident was a bunch of nonsense, but then again nobody asked the guv to speed down the highway either. I hope Rendell was watching.

Towelie wrote:

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Regardless of what people felt about the case in Louisiana, those boys still would have been in jail if people like Al Sharpton didn't cause a ruckus.
Yea and I can name a few kids that would still be at school in Duke also. How come he still has yet to issue an apology for this?

Please, so your saying that none of those guys involved in that scandal, have been able to attend another school? I highly doubt that since alot of them seemed to come from money. God-forbid they can't go back to mommie or daddie's school.

Why are you asking me why he didn't apologize? Do I look like his spokesman or something?