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Old 05-16-2008, 10:38 PM
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[quote=ADX;774774]However, there is a far greater chance of these police officers being prosecuted for their alleged crime due to the public out cry. /quote]

Wait! Are you saying that cops are prosecuted at a higher rate than young black males who commit various gun, muder or drug offenses?
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George Bush is behind the cover up. RIGHT???
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Oh, this is rich! So, an opinion cannot be offered in the meantime? Your knee jerk reaction is to support such behavior before the so called "trier of the facts" have had their say. By the way, who is the "trier of facts"?

Moreover, is the "trie of facts" ever wrong? Is the "trier of facts" involved in a process which is biased one way or the other?


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No, I'm not saying that police are prosecuted at a higher rate than young black males. I was comparing two specific cases - the police beating case and the gang rape that occurred in my neighborhood. Because the rape case was completeley ignored while the police beating case became international news, it's one more example of how the media and the public in general feel that the alleged crime against the thugs in the police beating was far more serious or more important than the gang rape of a white woman.

How would the media and the public handled these two cases if the races were reversed - 1) three white men abduct and gang rape a black woman? (white-on-black rapes are almost statistically non-existant, but we can pretend for a moment) 2) a law abiding white citizen is pulled over and beaten by black policemen?

The answer to these questions is simple. The rape case would have become an international scandal and the police beating would have been a one line story in the Inquirer.
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No, I'm not saying that police are prosecuted at a higher rate than young black males. I was comparing two specific cases - the police beating case and the gang rape that occurred in my neighborhood. Because the rape case was completeley ignored while the police beating case became international news, it's one more example of how the media and the public in general feel that the alleged crime against the thugs in the police beating was far more serious or more important than the gang rape of a white woman
Thats interesting since I keep reading about a black man who killed a man and repeatedly raped a woman before getting caught in NY. Do I guess right that you feel it's worst for a white woman to get raped than a black woman? Your throwing race in a conversation that isn't called for. It doesn't matter the race of the "alleged victims" or the race of the officers involved. What matters is the excessive brutality of their crime and now their new story.

I will admit that the media seems to be biased with their reporting. They do seem quick to show when a black person is abused by authority figures or if some black persons civil rights are abused. But lets not act like they don't also paint black men as homicidal rapist and black women as ghetto queens. So excuse me if I don't feel more sympathy for the woman in your neighborhood who was gang raped. If you really feel that raw about it you should get everyone in your neighborhood to bombard Fox news with the story.
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Thats interesting since I keep reading about a black man who killed a man and repeatedly raped a woman before getting caught in NY. Do I guess right that you feel it's worst for a white woman to get raped than a black woman? Your throwing race in a conversation that isn't called for. It doesn't matter the race of the "alleged victims" or the race of the officers involved. What matters is the excessive brutality of their crime and now their new story.

I will admit that the media seems to be biased with their reporting. They do seem quick to show when a black person is abused by authority figures or if some black persons civil rights are abused. But lets not act like they don't also paint black men as homicidal rapist and black women as ghetto queens. So excuse me if I don't feel more sympathy for the woman in your neighborhood who was gang raped. If you really feel that raw about it you should get everyone in your neighborhood to bombard Fox news with the story.
In some respects, we're on the same page here. It is the brutality of a crime that should determine if it is newsworthy, not the race of the victim or criminal. Unfortunately, that's not the standard that is used for reporting these days. The race of the victim will always take precedance over the brutality of the crime as far as the media goes.

I completely disagree with you on the idea of the media also painting blacks as homicidal rapists. I'm not sure which news sources you use, but most major outlets bend over backwards to make sure they do not show blacks in a poor light.

The only media outlets that show blacks as homicidal rapists and murderers are those outlets which glorify hip hop culture.
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It is the brutality of a crime that should determine if it is newsworthy, not the race of the victim or criminal. Unfortunately, that's not the standard that is used for reporting these days. The race of the victim will always take precedance over the brutality of the crime as far as the media goes.
Well the footage that I saw from the Fox helicopter was def. brutal. If you believe the suspects deserved it or not is another matter. I prefer to read the paper more than local news so I'm not aware of this incident being tied to race. I really only hear people on hear mentioning race. Most people I speak to about this just comment on the brutality of the offices and how excessive they were. No mention of race at all.

If you really want to go there with race over bruality then how come whenever a white woman is missing, her face can be plastered on every screen across the country, yet when the person is black she barely gets a mention. And how come you only hear about white women getting raped by black men and barely get a mention when a black man rapes a black woman? Is is someway to instill fear in white people?

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I completely disagree with you on the idea of the media also painting blacks as homicidal rapists. I'm not sure which news sources you use, but most major outlets bend over backwards to make sure they do not show blacks in a poor light.

The only media outlets that show blacks as homicidal rapists and murderers are those outlets which glorify hip hop culture.
You can disagree with me all you want, but I guarantee if you turn on the 11 o'clock news tonights that you will see at least 5 black men on the screen for some crime. And the only thing you might see about a white male is big branch falling on his garage. You say that the media tries to paint black men in a positive light yet I see the opposite. When I see the news report more about black men shooting each other than all the positive things black people do, it's a problem.

Last time I checked, the major news channels in our area did not glorify hip hop culture, nor do the papers.
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Hey Drew, Nu and SeanD, I'm sure you guys all saw the story involving this fine upstanding citizen(and the A-hole Judge) in the news/media and I'm pretty sure he looks like this courtesy of the PPD, where's the outrage? As far as I'm concerned it comes with the territory if you wanna be a "tough guy", "thug"...he'll live........unfortunately
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