Seeing Videos like this is why I go to the Toilet when I hear a cop was shot. Very Unnecessary

Awww, aren't you nice.

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From Philly.com:

One Philadelphia police sergeant and five officers have been removed from street duty after being identified on the scene of the beating of three shooting suspects Monday night, which was caught on video by a news helicopter.
Speaking at a news conference this afternoon with Mayor Nutter in front of police headquarters, Police Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey said other police would likely be identified and removed from street duty after police get an enhanced copy of the video tonight.
Ramsey said he would also send a copy of the enhanced video to District Attorney Lynne Abraham for review for the possible filing of criminal charges against the officers.

The commissioner seems to disagree with the majority of the posters here who don't see any problem with what went on. At least, he openly questions whether the officers involved engaged in unlawful conduct.

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That's the idiot representing these idiots.

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I think that his explanation was that he took it from one of his clients and was going to dispose of it. Whatever the case, he doesn't strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed.

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Isn't that what Internal Affairs is for?

And don't forget, there is saying something to appease the sniveling, whiny, liberal, pissy-pants public on this, and what he really thinks, which is probably closer to "yes, they did use some force to effect the arrest, but a) it ended when the shitheads were cuffed; and b) they only had the snot kicked out of them, not holes in their heads!

Seriously, what do you really expect him to say?

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I dunno ... if a cop hadn't been shot to death just days earlier, the cops probably don't use that much force.

It's hard to tell from the video when cuffs were applied and how much the suspects were resisting. But to use the words of the Commish, it doesn't look good.

Under normal circumstances I'd be inclined to think that this might be a bit excessive. There looked to be five cops for each suspect. A few blows and some pressure point applications probably would have safely got the job done.

However, given recent events can understand why things went down the way that they did. Tough job these cops have.

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Why is it so easy for everyone, with no concept of how difficult it is to arrest someone who just doesn't want to comply with orders, to assume that "a couple of pressure points should do it"? You do realize that there are people that have been shot that just won't stay down and pose quite a danger? I am not suggesting that these three were quite to that point. but I did watch the entire video, and the "beating" was a mere fraction of the entire video.

This isn't just about 'recent events', but the fact that police DID witness this particular carload of people involved in the commission of another crime just before this happened. From the video, it appears that police did want these guys out of that car, and quickly, since they had no idea if there was still a gun or three in that car (remember, three people had just been shot?) You're going to tell me that you would just stand there and serve them an effing latte waiting for them to take their sweet time getting their asses out of the car--I think not.


You all think it's so easy, but I wonder how many of you, in that situation, would just shoot first and clean up the pieces later?

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You know from my posts that I support the police 99% of the time and that I don't generally make excuses for people. At quick glance this looked a little excesssive to me. Bear in mind that you and I are both expressing opinions without the benefit of being there.

I can understand approaching the car with weapons drawn, I can understand slamming these guys on the ground, I can even understand a few baton blows. The cops had these guys on the ground relatively quickly -- it's what took place after that happened that is questionable. Multiple officers kicked and punched suspects that appeared to be on the ground and under control. With five guys there and a suspect on the ground you jam a knee into the suspet's back and force him to put his hands behind his back. I guarantee you that officers are trained to do that as opposed to kicking and punching suspects in the head.


Ramsey could have staunchly defended his officers but he's acknowledged that their actions don't look good. He called all commanding officers in after the incident and instructed them to speak to their officers about the departments directive governing use of force.

Based on what I can see, the officers appeared to use more than the minimum amount of force needed to subdue these guys. But I appreciate the tough, dangerous job that they do and given all that they've gone through these past few days I think that they should be given the benefit of the doubt.

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How do you know they didn't resist, were you there? Because from the video, the passenger wouldn't get out of the car, and the driver had to be forced out, and appears to be moving a bit on the ground before the stomping. I can almost assure you they were yelling at the cops, and trying to act tough, I'll admit when I see excessive, this may have been just BARELY excessive, but not nearly enough to lose jobs over. Hey Police: Just sit back and keep getting shot, it's ok, don't worry about getting the bad guys, because you just turn into bad guys by doing your jobs.

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