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Old 05-06-2008, 04:34 PM
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Why were these guys in a half way house?? There is NO WAY they should have been allowed on the street.
if you agree to the prescription that excons need a second chance then not only will they be in half way houses they will be working next to someone you know or knew. That happened to me and I almost got into a violent situation at a rehab program, but our Mayor thinks its a good idea. I think work release is good as long as they are not violent. I am not sure how Hillary or Obama or our Mayor feels about rehabbing violent criminals but I think its a bad idea. Yet what are we going to do with them, as there are thousands in this area.

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From what source did Phillyrunner plagiarize? Try Googling whole sentences from the post ... nothing comes up to suggest that those aren't his/her own words.
I, too, would like to know the source from which I plagiarized that post. A free pitcher of beer to whomever can tell me; because I sure as **** don't know.

A portion of it (in particular, my understanding of the retributivist theory of criminal justice) was based on my recollection of miscellaneous discussions from my criminal law class, lo those years ago. The rest was, so far as I'm aware, just my semi-coherent rambling on a topic of interest.
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if you agree to the prescription that excons need a second chance then not only will they be in half way houses they will be working next to someone you know or knew. That happened to me and I almost got into a violent situation at a rehab program, but our Mayor thinks its a good idea. I think work release is good as long as they are not violent. I am not sure how Hillary or Obama or our Mayor feels about rehabbingviolent criminals
Why would our goverment worry about rehabbing/keeping in confinement violent criminals when it can just as easily arrest a recreational pot smoker who will usually pay their fines and debt to society. Where is the DEA going to get the money for their nice shiny Expeditions and Escalades if they are just busting gang bangers?
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PhillyRunner should learn to give attribution when presenting material which comes from another source.

Actually, I think that if you look back through my posts (especially the substantive ones), you'll find that I am probably one of the more scrupulous posters when it comes to giving attribution. I think this holds particularly true for posts that rely on data and statistical analysis. See, for example, here and here and here for analyses regarding the supposed manipulation of oil and gas prices. I think that in each one you'll note that I give sources for the data on which I rely.

For other recent examples, please see here, here, here, here, and here. Ordinarily, I wouldn't devote such energy to rebutting a silly accusation; but if you are going to have the temerity to impugn someone's integrity, you'd better have the evidence to support your accusation.
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All these guys had huge rap sheets , it was one guys 18th chance, Now what is this liberal JUDGE thinking. These dumb, bleeding hearts put these crumbs back on the streets. I'm sure these jail house Muslims told the judge they found ALLA in jail. A Focking disgrace.....
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All these guys had huge rap sheets , it was one guys 18th chance, Now what is this liberal JUDGE thinking. These dumb, bleeding hearts put these crumbs back on the streets. I'm sure these jail house Muslims told the judge they found ALLA in jail. A Focking disgrace.....

Mel,

I think that it's really unfortunate that you continue to single out Muslims. There are just as many criminals who proclaim that they have found Jesus Christ in jail only to return to their criminal ways upon release. This has nothing to do with their faith. If they had killed a bunch of people in the name of Allah, you might have a point. But they didn't. They knocked off a bank and killed a police officer who got in their way. They're viscious felons and their faith is immaterial.
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Mel,

I think that it's really unfortunate that you continue to single out Muslims. There are just as many criminals who proclaim that they have found Jesus Christ in jail only to return to their criminal ways upon release. This has nothing to do with their faith. If they had killed a bunch of people in the name of Allah, you might have a point. But they didn't. They knocked off a bank and killed a police officer who got in their way. They're viscious felons and their faith is immaterial.
Don't want to hurt your feelings but thats what these 3 are..... Sorry
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Don't want to hurt your feelings but thats what these 3 are..... Sorry
Yes -- but it has nothing to do with their crime.

Done with this now.
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Theres Ignorance in a nutshell:
"And do you even know what muslim gab is? Hint, only women wear garb that conceals their identity.
"Great you want to do something about violence, but none of this is going to stop violence.
"See ideas like this are great for conversations with friends and neighbors...not the internet.
So please keep it there." DrewRob23

DrewRob23 you are so shallow --- Two men were wearing a muslim woman's Face Veil - perfect guise for conceiling one's identity (including gender) and hiding a weapon. Yes I do know what muslim garb is; dont be so ignorant to assert I do not. Furthermore, please dont attempt to regulate or censor a dynamic conversation and say what can or cannot (or should not) be posted on the internet. That is just so so narrow minded of you. Regulate your own ignorance. Please.
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And we have gone full circle....




Oh well...Viva La America!
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