thats my life and what I have to look forward to, part of it is my fault, part of it is not. ( I smoked for ten plus years)
Philadelphia had fewest clean air days
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
>
> then most modern cities in Europe and N.America. Out of hundreds of cities
> I
> have monitored ,Philly is amongst the top ten who DIDN"T get clean air the
> most. I am not sure if this is because east coast is predicted to have
> worse
> air in nation or more global warming or its one reason we pay more for
> health costs but go to epa website airnow.com. We had less then 49 full
> days
> of clean air this year! You see the rest of nation and area ? Just watch
> and
> you will see there can't be hocus pocus the way the pollution is
> formulated
> like saying we don't get the most pollution as in volume so that means we
> don't have the worse affects. There is more then total volume to judge
> damage , like consistency and how often we don't get it and dare I suggest
> the number of commercials for health care and if they wanted to see more
> damage to Philly families, all you had to do was to compare our health to
> clean air cities and then you would know how damaging all this is
> especially
> compounded or you can look at my air filter.. How the epa called philly
> having 200 days of clean air last year is beyond me.. Someone posted that
> unless they didn't include particulate pollution which is almost the most
> important. So we are set up for violence and everythign possible that is
> bad
> because National and local politicians have not still cared enough to give
> our population clean air. This sucks and is about more illness and
> pessimism
> and crime in a round about way because of not having good air. I am
> absolutely sure of this although your local news might rather sell you
> meds
> instead and not tell you why you need them. God help us.
>
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> Last edited by packers2 : Today at 06:43 PM. someone in newsgroups writes:

Hadn't been to Philly in almost 6 months. When I arrived Thursday,
the bad air was noticeable. It's really shocking how polluted the air
is there. It actually leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

There is link after link to damages. There are links to advice about
exercising to avoid damages from heart disease and cancer, but yet our air
is amongst the cities where air is often not even good enough to exercise
safely. Yet the tv stations promote walk for cures!!! While they advertise
for meds to treat asthma and hundreds of ailments while never mentioning our
f rated air or most asthma..Its totally unbelivable. I got to look forwards
to hundreds of shootings including 3 cops in 2 days and asthma and no one
does anything , its totally like a nightmare in hell. They show links to
damages from exercising in it so now what? Even if people wanted to do some
things to safeguard their health they couldn't!
Our health is worse in many areas. We have so many shootings and violent
crime. What is going on in the US that air that turns my filter black in 29
days that causes me to have hacking coughs and is in non compliance is
allowed to sicken people?

This thread is all crap.

I wonder when this website will get an "ignore thread" feature.

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to you, to me I ignore voluntarily.I don't need to tell someone to remove a thread I feel insecure about.

Hi
One of my reactions is living here is Amongst the most amazing things I have
ever seen and about the people who can handle it well. The problem though I
can't judge that for sure. From the many ads on tv and my own reaction and
links to f quality air and more global warming and warnings for east coast
and links to damages from particulate pollution which this area gets allot
of , are any indication.its no wonder the people in this city are crazy.I
seriously think and conclude a giant investigation needs to be done about
the consequences on health from air that is in noncompliance of epa
standards and worse from air that is slowly and secretly making sick much
more people then average, I never believed in conspiracies till I added all
this up. Its almost the most unbelievable thing I have ever seen.

If it does, it will be widely used.

I think economics is a big factor in a area's crime rate. The less wealthy the more crimes, except in the case of OJ.

EC, he "swiped" the comment about the air from someone, who came here after
6 months, from ANOTHER forum.

I mean how effing pathetic is that?

, he "swiped" the comment about the air from someone, who came here after
6 months, from ANOTHER forum.

I mean how effing pathetic is that?[/quote]
Yep He included a response to his message, horrible.
Why are you not worried about the truth to these links ?

companies and media that advertises day and night for health care but
> not tell you why your more prone to get those conditions.. they are paid
> to advertise to treat conditions they don't tell youa bout. Is this a city
> of optimism and happiness or is it a city of misery and waiting for the
> next violent crime and ashtma med to keep you going. This is not how it is
> everywhere.
> this is the link to air pollution and danger in exercising in it.
> http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=healthch eck&id=5653450
>
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070914/ap_on_sc/smog_ study;_ylt=Aivfwa5A9fYk4.Q4F5tPYP2s0NUE
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/hl_afp/usheal thvirusclimate
>
> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/clim-j19.shtml
>
>
>> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
>
> us life expectency falls to 42nd
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2147617,00. html
>
> now heart disease worsens because of it.
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/heart_pollution_dc
>
> parituclate pollution dangers
> Ultra-fine particulate matter has been linked with premature death,
> cardiovascular disease and respiratory illness, according to the
> California
> Air Resources Board. Though it takes Americans an average of 25 minutes to
> drive to work, according to 2005 U.S. Census Bureau figures, the board
> estimates that over 50% of a person's daily exposure to ultra-fine
> particles
> can occur during a commute.
>
> Likewise, a 2005 study by researchers at the University of Southern
> California's Keck School of Medicine showed that long-term exposure to
> ambient particulate matter may contribute to atherosclerosis, the
> hardening
> and narrowing of the arteries.
>
> "Particle pollution kills people, whether they're breathing it in over a
> short period or day in and day out for a year," Nolen says. "It's not like
> being hit by a car, but it shortens the lives of people by months to
> years."
>
> Even if you live in a city with low pollution levels, don't kid yourself;
> that doesn't necessarily mean your commute is healthy. A 2007 report by
> the
> Clean Air Task Force that investigated diesel exhaust levels during
> commutes
> in New York, Boston, Austin, Texas, and Columbus, Ohio, documented diesel
> particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars, buses and
> trains than in those cities' ambient outdoor air.
>
> The only commutes found to be low in diesel exposure were those on
> electric-powered subways and commuter trains, buses running on alternative
> fuels or retrofitted with diesel particulate filters, and in cars
> traveling
> with little truck traffic
>
>
>
> Exercising in polluted air causes harm
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-rock-positano/exercising-outdoors-in-ma_b_66171.html
>
>
>

rodo (phillypaul), have created yet another new identity?

As long as you continue to create an endless number of threads, regurgitating the same unintelligible gibberish, you going to be considered nothing more than a loon. You're like the folks from Westboro Baptist Church, but with a different agenda.

]rodo (phillypaul), have created yet another new identity?

As long as you continue to create an endless number of threads, regurgitating the same unintelligible gibberish, you going to be considered nothing more than a loon. You're like the folks from Westboro Baptist Church, but with a different agenda.[/quote]

How is it you respond to loons so often? You afraid some people will actually read the links and will not be in denial like you? This is what happens when people get their entire identity by tv news.


another person who can't (won't) read the links
Worst asthma then every city in the nation
Bottom five percent in nation for air quality according to sperlings website on demographics (or bottom sixth percent)
F rating by American Lung Association
More days without good air then practically every city in the nation
Most depression then every city in the USA
One of the worse violent crime rates in the US
Higher then average cancer and morbidity in certain age groups

The only people who don't want to read all this are the ones dumb enough to want to be here and not know of the things that are negative happening. The smart people who could afford to get out , not only because pollution and crime pretty much have gone. The people who took their place are not like the people who were here during the fifties and sixties. We have a much different population taking the place of people who left.

Awww, rodo/packers2/phillypaul, you really can't help yourself, can you?

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