Nutter tells national media that Philly is a trash heap - Page 6 - PhillyBlog

bernie25 · #51 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 04:39 AM

>In addition to fixing the trashcans, we should also fix the trash collectors. Every trash day, I see more loose trash on the street after the pickup than before.

that problem is caused more by the homeless people ripping through all the garbage bags looking for the rest of the banana that you didnt eat.....or maybe some old toothbrushes that they can go sell at the hobo auction in bumtown ...more so than the garbage men.... seriously...you cant expect them to pick up all the loose garbage that falls out

thats what the people that come later on in the day are for!! i dont know if theyre city workers..... or parolees or whatever ... but they do a pretty good job cleaning up what the garbage men left behind

tenzo · #52 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bernie25

> the hobo auction in bumtown

Cool!
Where is that, I wanna go

zur · #53 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tenzo

Cool!
Where is that, I wanna go

It's in front of the Free Library where the do-gooders keep feeding them

lighterthief · #54 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jgander

I agree with Nutter and hope that he can change things but don't underestimate the attitude in this city. If this statement was true (and I think it would be for most of us) there would be no litter in the Fairmount or Wissahickon parks (there is).

I've done the Philly Care Days where you bust your butt picking up trash all day to the laughs and jeers of the locals and as you're finishing (or while your sweeping) someone walks by and throws a food container on the ground in front of you.

I did not say ELIMINATE i said LESS LIKELY

some people are plain filthy but the more the example is set the better things will be. Sadly people need to be cleaned up after.

cyainthehood · #55 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by logansquare

That is exactly what I am talking about! It isn't friggin' rocket science. When you have trash cans with 4 foot circumferences it makes it pretty easy to throw way household waste, and also for the trash at the top to blow away.

I like that these trash cans have a top for cigarette butts. Like it or not, people smoke. Lots of the litter you'll see outside stores and buildings are cigarette butts.
If smokers have a place to put their butts, maybe they will

Tannhauser · #56 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zur

It's in front of the Free Library where the do-gooders keep feeding them

Do-gooders has such a negative connotation to it.

You'd probably criticize me for giving dollars to the bum on Delaware Avenue train tracks by the Super Fresh.

I mean, so what if it perpetuates him staying there, shooting smack next to the McDonalds dumpster, shocking families with small children? We do-gooders don't think things through that far.

tenzo · #57 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tannhauser

Do-gooders has such a negative connotation to it.

You'd probably criticize me for giving dollars to the bum on Delaware Avenue train tracks by the Super Fresh.

I mean, so what if it perpetuates him staying there, shooting smack next to the McDonalds dumpster, shocking families with small children? We do-gooders don't think things through that far.

Good for you
Acknowledging that you have a problem is the first step

TurtlePower · #58 (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by niel

Nutter didn't say these things in order to reinforce stereotypes about Philadelphia to a national audience - he's saying them to *us*, the citizens of Philadelphia and his likely future constituents. He's telling us he needs our help to change a fundamental attitude about the city - that things will never get better, that mediocre is as well as we can manage, that there's no hope trying because we're doomed to fail.

Frankly, it has nothing to do with a national audience. This is for internal consumption.

Good point Neil; I didn't get the sense that Nutter was piling on to negative perceptions about our City's cleanliness but was rather issuing a call to action to residents. It's just one of the many things that Nutter is going to improve during his eight years in office...he's going to make Philadelphia a cleaner place.

bernie25 · #59 (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cyainthehood

If smokers have a place to put their butts, maybe they will

yeah right........look outside any building in center city that has a trashcan with an ashtray on top

people are sooooooo pathetically lazy that they still just flick their butts onto the sidewalk