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Old 10-16-2007, 09:58 AM
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Dude I've seen cops in uniform intentionally drop thier litter on the sidewalk in Philly. I think its great that the next mayor is willing to speak so frankly.
I saw either a UCD security ambassador or Penn security toss an empty cig pack just the other day. Today, I saw a guy walk over to a fence and chuck some trash through into the shrubbery on the other side (that after a car making a left turn honked at me for having the gall to cross the street on green). I've also seen people standing next to the UCD elephant vacuum thing chucking trash where it just cleaned.

Yeah, I'm kind of pissed today.

Oh, BTW, CNN just ran a story that called us "Killadelphia." I think somebody acknowledging that we have a trash problem is the least of our worries.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:45 AM
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I saw either a UCD security ambassador or Penn security toss an empty cig pack just the other day. Today, I saw a guy walk over to a fence and chuck some trash through into the shrubbery on the other side (that after a car making a left turn honked at me for having the gall to cross the street on green). I've also seen people standing next to the UCD elephant vacuum thing chucking trash where it just cleaned.

Yeah, I'm kind of pissed today.
Why should you be pissed if you did nothing to correct peoples wrongs. Speak up if it bothers you, I do.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:28 AM
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The general 'lawlessness' that exists in Philadelphia is something that is going to have to change. I have heard people suggest that better education will decrease littering, increase recycling etc...

Unfortunately, I really think people in this City are going to have to see the Stick. We need Public Welfare policing. Folks who have the power to ticket and to fine. I have often wondered why the PPA or CCD officials can't be granted that kind of power?

But... there are many, many issues that are also problematic, including, there are not enough public trashcans; public trashcans are not emptied enough; the type of trashcans are bad (open topped); residents should be required to put their trash in containers with locking lids... etc...

Oh, and Nutter is awesome for actually understanding how these quality of life issues affect the growth and success of the city.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:33 AM
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We should be more upset at people who trash the place than we are at the people who notice.
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...HAHAHA. Great tact, Mr Nutter.
I would say: Great frankness. Bravo, Mr. Nutter!

I'm delighted to see someone who will be in a position of power to help address an issue that we Phillybloggers bitch about practically on a daily basis. Moreover, Mr. Nutter has been doing more than talking the talk; he's been effecting and participating in neighborhood cleanups.

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But... there are many, many issues that are also problematic, including, there are not enough public trashcans; public trashcans are not emptied enough; the type of trashcans are bad (open topped); residents should be required to put their trash in containers with locking lids... etc...
Exactly. Like this:


A group of our neighbors have been getting so desperate about the trash problem on our block that we've actually considered getting one or two of these ourselves. This is as far as we got. (I spotted this very well-designed can in a shopping center in Marlton NJ. I went back to photograph it & was hoping there would be a name plate of some sort with the manufacturer on it, but there wasn't.)

These are the sorts of cans the City should have everywhere. They should cut down drastically on the issue of household trash being disposed in public cans, which would in turn reduce the overflow issues.

I also agree that citizens should be required to put out trash in proper containers, with tight-fitting lids. It is absolutely amazing to me what the City puts up with as far as how people are allowed to put out their trash.

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Oh, and Nutter is awesome for actually understanding how these quality of life issues affect the growth and success of the city.
Yes. And I have high hopes for Nutter too. I applaud his courage to speak the truth.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:50 PM
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bravo, Mr. Nutter.

you have great ideas and I hope that if you win, you will have the support of city council to change the mental perceptions of the citizens of the city i was raised in. and to the blogger that is trying to get trash cans in his neighborhood, kudos to you for taking some initiative and having civic pride.

back to Nutter:
I think its great that he is encouraging businesses to hire ex-cons.
he's right in that if they don't work, they are going to go back and commit more crimes.
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"The City" isn't going to be able to do anything to clean the streets up. That's something that's going to fall on "The Citizens", and quite frankly, too many of us think we're too important or too busy to pick up a broom and dust pan and sweep up the block.
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The general 'lawlessness' that exists in Philadelphia is something that is going to have to change. I have heard people suggest that better education will decrease littering, increase recycling etc.
"The General Lawlessness" won't come to a halt because it's politically incorrect to enforce laws and prosecute the perps.
If we'd just take the 5,000 worst Philadelphia criminals, prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law and lock them up, crime would be halved if not more.
But again, that ain't gonna happen.
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:37 PM
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I disagree with you TannHauser.
I think if the city led an initiative to clean our streets, it would be reciprocated by the citizenry. blacks and whites have responded to NUTTER, which is a good thing.
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