St. John's has a mission on 13th St. But I have always found those people to be rather harmless. The 4 that commenced this attack were teens, who IF they had been in school, were probably coming back and starting trouble.

Expect to see shootings of 'poor, troubled, youth, who were basically good kids' go up, as people who are more frightened start to carry more.

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Two men were shot dead over the weekend bringing Philadelphia's homicide count for the year to 70. The number of killings in the city remains down - about 28 percent - from last year's total of 98 slayings to date, police said

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Has anyone used this yet? Do you find it helpful?

I did recently for info on a section in N. Philly. I found it convenient.

Any opinions on Ramsey's/PPD's new initiative?

I thought only drug dealers and people who owed drug dealers money tracked the murder rate.

What's the armed robbery rate?

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I have been keeping notice of (but not actually recording) the homicide count and percentage on ppdonline almost daily. Has any website been keeping track (a graph or chart) of the day-to-day count? I don't see anything on ppd. I know malcolmxpark.org does a stats update sometimes, but it is based on monthly and not daily numbers. The percentage right now is about 19 compared to last year and it seems low compared to the 25-28% I was seeing a few weeks ago.

I love how easily you can tell if a person is "decent" or not. How do you make these judgements? I'm just curious because I think if I had those powers I could use them them to make friends and determine whether my mechanic is ripping me off.
Realistically, there is no way to determine how decent a person is or isn't without interacting with them and simply judging on appearance. Your true ignorance is on display here. Philly is a diverse city made up of all types of people from all walks of life ... I'm certain the indecent types you refer to may simply be less fortunate or in a different tax bracket than most you would expect to see around City Hall. I've heard of indecent priests, lawyers, judges, politicians, etc ..... But just because they have a suit and briefcase, you somehow fear them less. You come to the city 2 days a week, hopefully one of those days you will get a clue as to how great a city Philly is because of the mix of people.
You could always move to Conneticut.

So true!!
With exceptions of course, most of the murders in Philly correlate directly with the drug business. Unless you're out galavanting with friends from the office at 2am around Broad and Somerset, selling drugs on someone elses corner, or taking a bundle of crack to sell on consignment from a guy named Ace, you should worry more about the armed robbery rate.
When someone is fronted that g-pack from Ace and takes the principal and the profits to the Borgata with his baby momma, he's coming to rob YOU so he can pay Ace. And that's where most of us fit into the big picture.
Usually people don't say "hey, let me go randomly kill some hard working law abiding citizen for the hell of it". There's a reason, usually a reputation to protect or build.

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7/20/08

PHILADELPHIA - July 20, 2008 (WPVI) -- Police are investigating at least seven shootings that resulted in 10 people shot.
The shootings all occurred after midnight Saturday night.

The shootings occurred on Delhi Street, Hartranft Street, Opal Street, Norris Street, Parkside Avenue, York Street, and North Randolph Street in the city.

Philadelphia Police responded to the 4200 block of Parkside Avenue around 2:30 a.m. where they found a 21-year-old male shot 14 times inside of a car. The male was taken to the hospital of the University of Pennsylvania where he was pronounced dead at just before 4:00 a.m.

Philadelphia Police also responded to a double shooting that involved two teens on the 3900 block of North Delhi St. They found a 15-year-old shot and an 18-year-old suffering from gun shot wounds. Both were transported to local hospitals in stable condition.

Over on the 1800 block of Hartranft Street, police responded to a shooting, where they found a 24 year-old male shot in the knee, elbow and stomach. He was transported to a local hospital in critical condition

Police responded to a double shooting in the 2000 block of South Opal Street, where they found an 18 year-old male shot in the abdomen and a 20-year-old shot in stomach. Both were transported to local hospitals in stable condition.

Norris Street was the scene of another shooting overnight. Just before 3:00 a.m., police were on the scene at 23rd and Norris Streets. At the scene they found a 35-year-old male shot in the wrist, groin, and stomach. He was transported to Temple Hospital in critical condition.

2 men are in critical condition after being shot on York Street. Gunfire rung out around 3:20 a.m. on York near Opal Street striking both victims with gunfire. Medics transported a 20-year-old male, shot in the neck, and a 25-year-old male, shot in the chest, to Temple Hospital.

A 15-year-old boy is in critical condition after being shot overnight on North Randolph Street. The 15-year-old was shot once in the back and once in the shoulder around 4:30 a.m. and taken to Temple Hospital. Police believe the teen was the victim of a robbery.
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