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Old 06-07-2005, 02:38 PM
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Michelle,

Again, you're wrong on the policy of the FNA. Also, I believe you give too much weight to what the FNA can do. The FNA cannot stop zoning or anything else for that matter. It can only voice the group's opinion to those in power. What they do with that opinion is up to them.

You have shown concern here for the remediation of this lot, but aren't you also a little too late. If you were so concerned about it, did you ever make any inquiries to anyone about the lot, to FNA to the City, to NKCDC. You've placed blame on the FNA and no one else here. How about yourself? You continue to say the FNA knew about housing on the lot. True, but you mention that FNA also opposed that plan during this time as well.

The FNA and the other residents have shown the same concern. So has NKCDC.

However, I don't think you realize or acknowledge the fact that this meeting was held by Councilman Clarke and NKCDC. FNA members were in attendance, as were a large group of concerned residents who were not part of the FNA.

The overwhelming sentiment in the room was to clean the lot, irrespective of any housing proposal. No one said, "Hey let's leave this lot the way it is to spite NKCDC or anyone else."

The lot has been in disarray for about 6 years now. I don't think the neighbors on the blocks affected need to submit to a housing proposal in order for it to be cleaned.

NKCDC and FNA have discussed this lot since the meeting, as have many other people both for and against the proposal. I foresee a plan in which the lot is cleaned and then a determination is made about the future use of the site, something that should have occurred years ago.
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:41 PM
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Michelle,

The FNA has over 150 "dues-paying" members as of last month.

I am the corresponding secretary of the organization and have been explaining the actions of the FNA with respect to this lot and clarifying some of the lot's history for the past two weeks.

I would appreciate it if you did more investigation into both the history of the lot and the actions of the FNA.

Also, I would appreciate it if you found out more about the organization before you continued to mischaracterize its operation and the people who belong to it.

Thank you.
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:04 PM
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Michelle,

The FNA has over 150 "dues-paying" members as of last month.

I am the corresponding secretary of the organization and have been explaining the actions of the FNA with respect to this lot and clarifying some of the lot's history for the past two weeks.

I would appreciate it if you did more investigation into both the history of the lot and the actions of the FNA.

Also, I would appreciate it if you found out more about the organization before you continued to mischaracterize its operation and the people who belong to it.

Thank you.
AJ
Well AJ, as cooresponding secretary I can say you have done a great job cooresponding, Thanks for letting me know how many dues paying members you have??
I would like to clarify a few things as well. Just because you say I am wrong, doesn't mean I am, that is your opinion, which you are entitled to
And I have not once ever mischaracterized the people who belong to the FNA, seperate yourself from the two. I have critized the FNA as a whole, which I think I can do, this is America right?, but I have not critized or attacked any single member.

You stated,
"You continue to say the FNA knew about housing on the lot. True, but you mention that FNA also opposed that plan during this time as well".

Well, These are two differnet things, I stated the FNA knew about the plan two years ago and never did anything about it until now, and I stated that the FNA voted, acted, whatever against this plan now, two years after the fact and failed to mention that they knew all along.

To help you clarify why I am upset I will try to narrow it down for you,

I believe the FNA was just as responsible here to notify resident of their intentions as a group regarding this plan, Wasn't it their job to also be pro-active? Although this was not an FNA meeting it was held on their turf and they stood there as our representatives to cry out against this proposal. As Cooresponding secretary providing information about this lot now also seems a little too late doesn't it? And no, I never expressed concern for the lot because I was attending FNA meetings two years ago and I knew housing was being built there by NKCDC and I have never had any concerns as to their motives or plans for this neighborhood, nor do I harbor any resentment for them. or for the FNA for that matter.

I can disagree with a groups actions on a certian topic but it does not mean I have to hate the whole group.

You stated that the residents on the block were against it and the FNA was supporting the residents. They were your words, not mine. And again I question, how does that include everyone, or at least a majority?
Who asked them to represent us ALL against it? When did they decide Fishtown didn't want it? When did they notify us they would be deciding on such an important issue?, it is our neighbors association isn’t it?? What about Thompson Street, Oxford, Columbia, Girard, Palmer, Marlborough? Aren’t we residents too? How does this come up to equal representation?

I am sorry if it offends you that my posts sounds like an I hate the FNA letter, but NKCDC had a plan, could they have been more pro-active with the communication, yes, and they admitted as much, but I feel the FNA needs to step up and take some responsibilty here as well and maybe even considering changing the way they decide on important issues that are brought up at general meetings. If this was a topic brought up at a general meeting it warranted another meeting where the community was notified about what was going on, what could happen, what the FNA could do and the ramifications of that position. But not I, nor anyone else in the neighborhood was afforded that choice after the FNA decided to support the neighbors at the meeting with Councilman Clarke.
I am entitled to that opinion and if others feel that way or something like it they are entitled to it also.

And also, I would appreciate it if you would not Private Message me anymore asking me to stop posting about the FNA and Grow up.

If I feel they are doing something I disagree with I will say it, I doubt you asked anyone else to stop saying things about NKCDC.

~Michelle
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Old 06-08-2005, 07:46 AM
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Again, I'm going to step in and remind everyone that it's not okay to personally attack. Arguing about ideas rather than namecalling is the goal. I'm locking this thread until we can start being civil again. Where's Pastor Dan when we need him?
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Old 06-13-2005, 08:39 AM
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This is now reopened. Play fair.
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