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Old 06-20-2007, 11:10 PM
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Nick Cooney

The Huggs for Puppies site is registered in the name of this man. Many of you probably already know that, but it's news to me.

The man's recent "crimes" here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041122120815/http://w ww.miami.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/10041927.htm? 1c

http://www.impactpress.com/articles/...tspring06.html

Theory: His "crime career" which could possiblly be him calling the police on himself, as fuel for his capitalist desire to be famous.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0952693/

He's made a film, and he's involved many other projects. I'm sure that he imagines himself "CEO" of some "charty" by his thirties. That's a sweet job where you basically do nothing, except hope the charity never runs out of charty cases of course. That's stressful!


I'm curious about this guy's finances, and how they compare to the people protesting in the street.

Also, he doesn't look Irish to me, is that his real name?

Supposedly the FBI is investigating this guy, but is anyone else?
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:54 PM
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Nick Cooney

The Huggs for Puppies site is registered in the name of this man. Many of you probably already know that, but it's news to me.

The man's recent "crimes" here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041122120815/http://w ww.miami.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/10041927.htm? 1c

http://www.impactpress.com/articles/...tspring06.html

Theory: His "crime career" which could possiblly be him calling the police on himself, as fuel for his capitalist desire to be famous.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0952693/

He's made a film, and he's involved many other projects. I'm sure that he imagines himself "CEO" of some "charty" by his thirties. That's a sweet job where you basically do nothing, except hope the charity never runs out of charty cases of course. That's stressful!


I'm curious about this guy's finances, and how they compare to the people protesting in the street.

Also, he doesn't look Irish to me, is that his real name?

Supposedly the FBI is investigating this guy, but is anyone else?
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:13 AM
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Nick Cooney

The Huggs for Puppies site is registered in the name of this man. Many of you probably already know that, but it's news to me.

The man's recent "crimes" here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041122120815/http://w ww.miami.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/10041927.htm? 1c

http://www.impactpress.com/articles/...tspring06.html

Theory: His "crime career" which could possiblly be him calling the police on himself, as fuel for his capitalist desire to be famous.
I was actually very vaguely aquqinted with some of his housemates around when his house was raided by the FBI. Apparently according to them and some posters over in the West Philly section it was a huge pain in the arse because it was one of those sprawling 7 bedroom communal households and the Feds confiscated several unrealted housemates' computers.

I wonder if Hugs for Puppies has ever put a plate full of liver (goose or otherwise) in front of some actual puppies or full-grown dogs and seen their reaction. It would kind of be an ethical quandary because they would have to admit the dog would scarf it down presumably because it was incapable of passing moral judgment on how that liver was raised and therefore less ethically and intellectually developed than a human being. But if animals have significantly less moral or intellectual capacity than human beings are humans really so wrong for choosing to eat them from time to time? Holy ethical dilemna, Batman!
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Old 06-22-2007, 08:55 AM
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"Hugs For Puppies" is the new name for the Philly chapter of "Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty" or SHAC. They started using the new cheery name at the end of 2002.

You can go here for a Feb 2006 Salon article that's pretty comprehensive:
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/200...ies/index.html

excerpt:
"According to the FBI, the group is one of the top domestic terror threats in the United States. In May of last year, FBI officials told Congress, to the surprise of many, that animal and environmental rights extremism is now the most dangerous homegrown terror threat, specifically citing SHAC. One of the FBI's most wanted fugitives, Daniel Andreas San Diego, is being sought in connection with two firebombings at Chiron Corp., a California pharmaceutical firm targeted by SHAC. In October, at U.S. Senate hearings devoted solely to SHAC's activities in the U.S., John Lewis, the deputy assistant director of the FBI, testified that 'SHAC has conducted a relentless campaign of terror and intimidation ... including bombings, death threats, vandalism, office invasions [and] phone blockades.' "
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Does anyone actually care?
I'm sure that if he and his people were tormenting you, possibly just to fill his pockets you'd care. Why wouldn't you?
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Is he tormenting you?
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I was actually very vaguely aquqinted with some of his housemates around when his house was raided by the FBI. Apparently according to them and some posters over in the West Philly section it was a huge pain in the arse because it was one of those sprawling 7 bedroom communal households and the Feds confiscated several unrealted housemates' computers.

I wonder if Hugs for Puppies has ever put a plate full of liver (goose or otherwise) in front of some actual puppies or full-grown dogs and seen their reaction. It would kind of be an ethical quandary because they would have to admit the dog would scarf it down presumably because it was incapable of passing moral judgment on how that liver was raised and therefore less ethically and intellectually developed than a human being. But if animals have significantly less moral or intellectual capacity than human beings are humans really so wrong for choosing to eat them from time to time? Holy ethical dilemna, Batman!
That's a very good point there!

These kind of people have confusing ideas about life on Earth. I've never met one that was overtly religious, but they seem to have ideas that boarder on it. It's as if man is different from other animals and if only he wasn't "placed" here there wouldn't be any problems. My other favorite is when they say "man is encroaching on X environment," because it implies that there's some rule as to where man should go. Humans are a random part of the Earth no reason that they can't go anywhere.

So, I think they have some "humans ruined Eden" stuff mixed in with their thinking. The recent film Amazing Grace was about the guy that stopped slavery in the UK, and he also started the first animal rights society. He was a religious guy and I wonder if echoes of his thoughts aren't contained in the current day stuff.

That was a long way to say that puppies and people kind of like the same food. I'm going to guess here that the forces of evolution have linked our sense of smell with what's good and bad to eat, certainly the sense of taste is geared towards that. So, if it smells good and tastes good, then that's what people are supposed to be eating. It's natural.

At best, these people are confused about their concepts. At worst, some cynical people purposely adopt a situation that is near impossible to change, such as eating, technology, the use of vehicles, and so on to provide an eternal platform on which to get attention and make money. I think that it's mix of both.
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Is he tormenting you?
Clearly.
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Clearly.
In what way?
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:25 PM
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In what way?
In all of the ways that I've mentioned, and based on the subject of this thread.

You're just going to have to accept that I view many types of activists as negative people.

http://www.phillyblog.com/philly/showthread.php?t=37750

I explain a bit here.
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