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Old 06-07-2006, 10:20 PM
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I disagree. Most of the people I know in center city do own cars.

Philadelphia is not NYC, where one can get away without owning a car, and will never be. Because it is much smaller with fewer things to do even in center city, people need cars to occupy their free moments.
Um, I literally know dozens of people who do not own a car and do just fine in CC.

These people pretty much live exclusively in CC and do far more with their free time than little ole me who does, in fact, own a car.

If it wasn't for the fact I have a great deal of my family in the NE, I'd a probably have gotten rid of my car awhile back.

You can get around just fine without a car in CC.
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Please read previous posts.

This point has already been discussed by several people.
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:21 AM
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This point has already been discussed by several people.
Um, I have read the other posts.

You disagree that people in CC live without cars. Most of the people I know who live in CC don't have a car.
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Old 06-10-2006, 10:13 PM
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Some info on 22nd and Fairmount:

That lot does have some sort of arrangement with the neighborhood for parking….Its complicated.

The person who “Owns” has permanently moved out of the US and has 0 interest in the lot.

There is a 2 year waiting list for non-residents.

Daily parking is permitted at a reasonable rate (16 day max I think)

It is VERY slow during the day. Which would mean as a previous poster suggested the ROI on a garage would be low.
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Some info on 22nd and Fairmount:

The person who “Owns” has permanently moved out of the US and has 0 interest in the lot.
The last I heard the lot was still owned the the Spring Garden CDC. They lease it to the parking lot operator. Do you know for a fact someone other than the SG CDC owns this lot? If so when did the SG CDC sell it?
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Old 06-12-2006, 07:24 PM
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If this lot is so valuable, perhaps someone should propose building a 47 story condo tower on the lot.
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Old 06-13-2006, 05:59 PM
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About six or seven years ago there was a movement to turn the lot into a residential site. Once word got out the to the residents and businesses around it, they went ape. The plan was then withdrawn.
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About six or seven years ago there was a movement to turn the lot into a residential site. Once word got out the to the residents and businesses around it, they went ape. The plan was then withdrawn.
IIRC, the neighbors instituted and won a court case which went all the way to the PA Supreme Court (which declined to hear SG CDC's appeal) saying the lot was illegal because of the zoning variance they were granted. L&I decided not to enforce the court ruling and the lot stayed open. Most of the neighbors would have rather had housing than a parking lot. Obviously the businesses felt differently.

The neighbors had a problem with the fact that the city sold it to SG CDC for a pittance and they in turn were going to sell it to developers for a huge windfall. They had a problem with the whole process of how SG CDC bought it in the first place. The city never listed it for sale, never received an appraisal before announcing the sale (I think they got one afterward), sold it to a CDC no one had ever heard of that seemed to consist of one woman who worked in Fumo's office, sold it for way below market value, and the CDC refused to disclose how they got the funds to buy it or what they planned to do with it. The whole process never passed the smell test, and it still doesn't. That's what people "went ape" about.
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