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Shosh · #11 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hospitalitygirl

Who remembers ALL 7 of the dirty words you can't say on tv?

I usually get 6 and on occasion the 7th.

And remember boys and girls...you can pr!ck your finger but you caann't finger your pr!ck!

You probably forget "tit*." As George said,

Wow! ...and **** doesn't even belong on the list. That is such a friendly
sounding word. It sounds like a nickname, right? "Hey, ****, come here,
man. Hey ****, meet Toots. Toots, ****. ****, Toots." It sounds like a
snack, doesn't it? Yes, I know, it is a snack. I don't mean your sexist
snack. I mean New Nabisco ****!, and new Cheese ****, Corn ****,
Pizza ****, Sesame ****, Onion ****, Tater ****. "Betcha Can't Eat Just
One." That's true. I usually switch off. But I mean, that word does
not belong on the list. Actually none of the words belong on the list,
but you can understand why some of them are there.

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Hospitalitygirl · #12 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 11:12 AM

It is the one I always forget! He was right, it really doesn't belong on that list--much too friendly-sounding. "*****" is another one, especially since I have pricked my finger many times, or the nurse will ***** my finger for a blood test. But watch the filter take it out.

Hospitalitygirl · #13 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shosh

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It's one of the seven dirty words!

epoxy · #14 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 11:49 AM

He's my second favorite all time, right behind Rodney. Although, I still thought he was a liberal, ex- junkie, scumbag hippie.

Kevosh · #15 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 11:49 AM

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It's one of the seven dirty words!

"...the ones that will curve your spine, put sin on your soul and bring us, God forbid, peace without honor"

I saw George at the old Valley Forge Music Fair in the early 80's. One microphone and one stool and one funny guy. R.I.P.

epoxy · #16 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 12:00 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PiZSFIVFiU

Winston · #17 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 12:00 PM

I loved how insightful and intelligent his was, in addition to being funny. Any young'uns reading this who think that George Carlin was just some crazy old guy who cursed a lot should know that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert owe a big debt to him, especially for challenging American culture and politics to be more honest. Read the following bit and you'll see a lot of the Stewart/Colbert formula at work:

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Originally Posted by The late, great George Carlin

I don't like words that hide the truth. I don't like words that conceal reality. I don't like euphemisms, or euphemistic language. And American English is loaded with euphemisms. Cause Americans have a lot of trouble dealing with reality. Americans have trouble facing the truth, so they invent the kind of a soft language to protect themselves from it, and it gets worse with every generation. For some reason, it just keeps getting worse. I'll give you an example of that.

There's a condition in combat. Most people know about it. It's when a fighting person's nervous system has been stressed to it's absolute peak and maximum. Can't take anymore input. The nervous system has either (click) snapped or is about to snap.

In the first world war, that condition was called shell shock. Simple, honest, direct language. Two syllables, shell shock. Almost sounds like the guns themselves.

That was seventy years ago. Then a whole generation went by and the second world war came along and very same combat condition was called battle fatigue. Four syllables now. Takes a little longer to say. Doesn't seem to hurt as much. Fatigue is a nicer word than shock. Shell shock! Battle fatigue.

Then we had the war in Korea, 1950. Madison avenue was riding high by that time, and the very same combat condition was called operational exhaustion. Hey, we're up to eight syllables now! And the humanity has been squeezed completely out of the phrase. It's totally sterile now. Operational exhaustion. Sounds like something that might happen to your car.

Then of course, came the war in Viet Nam, which has only been over for about sixteen or seventeen years, and thanks to the lies and deceits surrounding that war, I guess it's no surprise that the very same condition was called post-traumatic stress disorder. Still eight syllables, but we've added a hyphen! And the pain is completely buried under jargon. Post-traumatic stress disorder.

I'll bet you if we'd of still been calling it shell shock, some of those Viet Nam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time. I'll betcha. I'll betcha.

MarketStEl · #18 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hospitalitygirl

Who remembers ALL 7 of the dirty words you can't say on tv?

I usually get 6 and on occasion the 7th.

And remember boys and girls...you can pr!ck your finger but you caann't finger your pr!ck!

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Originally Posted by Hospitalitygirl

It is the one I always forget! He was right, it really doesn't belong on that list--much too friendly-sounding. "*****" is another one, especially since I have pricked my finger many times, or the nurse will ***** my finger for a blood test. But watch the filter take it out.

Funny, I remember the Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television as:

F**k, s**t, p**s, c**t, c**ks****r, m*****f****r and t**s.

No p***k among them. If it were, a bunch of things never could have been uttered or shown on TV, including the indie feature film about the life of Joe Orton, "***** Up Your Ears" (yes, the title is a double entendre if you haven't copped wise).

I was at WHRB, Harvard's student-run radio station, when the infamous 1979 FCC ruling that stripped WXPN of its license for airing most if not all of these seven words (I don't believe they ran the Carlin monologue itself) and then some on a program called "The Produce Report" (or was it "The Vegetable Report"?) came down. It was the subject of much buzz in the college radio world -- and it set the stage for Penn's direct administration of its radio station, which at the time was a student-community free-form affair. (Penn had to agree to this in order to save the license.)

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Originally Posted by PSquare Allstar

Most memorable Carlin moment for me is when he whittled the Ten Commandments down to one... the Golden Rule.

For a non-religious -- or even anti-religious -- person, there was a lot of the divine presence within him. In this specific instance, he was merely following Episcopal practice:

"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and all thy soul, and thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

No further elaboration necessary. Carlin merely delivered this message in super-concentrated form.

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Originally Posted by Winston

I loved how insightful and intelligent his was, in addition to being funny. Any young'uns reading this who think that George Carlin was just some crazy old guy who cursed a lot should know that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert owe a big debt to him, especially for challenging American culture and politics to be more honest. Read the following bit and you'll see a lot of the Stewart/Colbert formula at work:

Since Phillyblog's BBS engine doesn't include nested quotes, the meat of your post is stripped here, but that's OK -- all you have to do is go up two posts to read it.

He was also a noted foe of "politically correct" speech, and for that I think all of us also owe him a debt of gratitude. As Lenny Bruce did before him, Carlin understood that sometimes a humorist must risk offense to get the audience to see through its own prejudices and understand the defects and hypocrisies we all share.

Edited to add: Loved Carlin as Jack Nicholson's gay neighbor in As Good As It Gets.

phillyaggie · #19 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 12:27 PM

I really liked his brand of in-your-face comedy and observations on society. RIP.

Illiniwek · #20 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Winston

I loved how insightful and intelligent his was, in addition to being funny. Any young'uns reading this who think that George Carlin was just some crazy old guy who cursed a lot should know that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert owe a big debt to him, especially for challenging American culture and politics to be more honest.

It's interesting that Carlin said with a joke some of the things Orwell said about the use of the English language to debase politics and discourse. Even the football-baseball thing isn't about a direct comparison between the sports; it's about a comparison of how the language surrounding each sport affects the way we think about it. (As a linguistics guy, I really like that stuff.)