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Old 05-02-2005, 03:00 PM
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that building is beautiful.
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Old 05-02-2005, 05:03 PM
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Besides the fact that 5 years ago, people were complaining because of crime and litter in these neighborhoods. Now, they are complaining that there's too much gentrification. It's like the city is damned if you do, damned if you don't.

No one is ever happy.
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:43 AM
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Are they gonna freakin build this one or not? Have they at least secure funding yet? God man... hurry up and build something.
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:03 PM
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Besides the fact that 5 years ago, people were complaining because of crime and litter in these neighborhoods. Now, they are complaining that there's too much gentrification. It's like the city is damned if you do, damned if you don't.

No one is ever happy.
yeo. it's why building by consensus never works. soemtimes you just have to do. wonder if you could build a tower before L & I noticed.
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:03 PM
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I understand the building will be about 500' tall---44 stories, one condo per floor, at least most of the way up---connected to the Rosenbluth building which will be redone for retail and offcies, and rooftop restaurant.

Will hardly cast ANY shadows on the SRPark (it's shadow will basically fall on the bridges) and it'll be a great visual ADDITION to the park---as opposed to a chain link weeded over parking lot.

I predict it WILL be built, and I hear construction cold start as soon as this fall ---no land assembly required.

I don't expect RHSQ people to object, but that's my wishful thinking.

I want the condo up top, with no roof and only a southern wall!
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Well, if nothing else, I don't think that the lot even falls into the Rit-Fit Historic District. And if it does, I doubt a parking lot, or even the Rosenbluth building would be considered "significant" or "contributing". So that's a non-starter as a basis for opposition.

I love the design, it'll look gorgeous from I-76, and will further help connecting UCity with CC. That area bound by the river, Chestnut, 22nd Street, and Walnut needed a little help anyway. (Though I'm sure the people who live in those little rowhouses tucked down there on 23rd would disagree.) If it's successful, in conjunction with the Big Ugly, it could spur further riverfront development... (aside: Dear God, please give me a new Walnut Street Bridge, and I'll never ask for anything ever again...)

I wonder if it will have a direct opening onto the Schuylkill Trail? I would assume so.
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Well, if nothing else, I don't think that the lot even falls into the Rit-Fit Historic District. And if it does, I doubt a parking lot, or even the Rosenbluth building would be considered "significant" or "contributing". So that's a non-starter as a basis for opposition.

I love the design, it'll look gorgeous from I-76, and will further help connecting UCity with CC. That area bound by the river, Chestnut, 22nd Street, and Walnut needed a little help anyway. (Though I'm sure the people who live in those little rowhouses tucked down there on 23rd would disagree.) If it's successful, in conjunction with the Big Ugly, it could spur further riverfront development... (aside: Dear God, please give me a new Walnut Street Bridge, and I'll never ask for anything ever again...)

I wonder if it will have a direct opening onto the Schuylkill Trail? I would assume so.
The bad news is - that is a new Walnut St bridge, built back in the late 80s, IIRC, under the auspices of PennDot.

The Rosenbluth building is slightly historic (though I doubt it's designated), but I'm happy to see it being adaptively reused yet again. This was originally a warehouse owned by the B&O Railroad, though you couldn't recognize it as such, since it has already been through at least one major makeover. This is pretty much the last remnant of the B&O along the Schuylkill riverfront in CC. The Frank Furness-designed B&O Station stood north of Rosenbluth on the site now occupied by the ugly white slab apt. building. It was razed in the mid-50s.
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The bad news is - that is a new Walnut St bridge, built back in the late 80s, IIRC, under the auspices of PennDot.
Oh how I wish we could have the old Chestnut Street bridge back. It was beautiful. The piers at either end preserve a bit of its feel, but the main span is pretty ugly.
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I understand the building will be about 500' tall---44 stories, one condo per floor, at least most of the way up---connected to the Rosenbluth building which will be redone for retail and offcies, and rooftop restaurant.
if this building is supposed to be 500' than that rendering is radically out of scale, and worries me a bit. in the drawing, the building's tallest point which looks to be the glass spire that ascends on one side of teh structure, appears to be atleast twice as high as the 337foot 2400 chestnut apartments that are adjacent to it. that would put it somehwere over 600'.

it's not the height that worries me as much as the accuracy of the rendering.
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Old 05-07-2005, 11:25 PM
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I'm not sor sure it looks that out of scale, but maybe---I'm pretty sure I heard 500'.

AND I saw three Richard Maier (sp?) designed buildings next to each other on West River Drive in NYC---about 10th St---each about 15 stories---they look a little bit like short glass and metal versions of the rendering of Phila proposal.
I heard they are $10-15 million--and that Nicole Kidman and a bunch of other famous peoples have bought there.....
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