Ooohh Do alesis and his knob gobblers wanna get into a PC vs Mac discussion?

Mucking around in a shell can be just as dangerous if not more dangerous than mucking around in the registry. And your typical end user isn't going to be doing EITHER of those things anyway.

Alesis I would be quite interested to see the references citing CIA and other government orgs saying they are going to Mac, I hadn't heard that (I'd just like to read the article myself)

As for the MacOS pre Unix Kernel. LOL i dunno if you could call that an OS.

And theres a difference between malware vulnerability and the amount of malware targeted @ at particular OS.


Alesis I hope you realize what you're saying there... And the flaw in it... I'll give you a little while to think about that. I'd be suprised if you didn't make that up and PC world claimed that... But its possible they did!!!


Oh theres also the hilarious fact that after clinging to its old Aging Architecture for so long it finally Migrated to Intel/ x86 Hardware that PC's had been using for years,

Yet Apple still charged 2-3x as much for the SAME EXACT HARDWARE.

Then they finally did a total overhaul to the OS to implement features windows had for ages, and bringing it out of the 'stone age'.
(there is plenty of overhauling that could be done to windows as well though)

Also just because your common Peon with disposable income gobbles Mac Products like the Iphone, doesn't make them good products, Theres a reason the Iphone 3G had to be released so soon after the original product. The original Iphone was lacking MANY features, and it still is lacking many more enterprise level features, that competing smart phones have had for a long time now. Oh... Theres also the fact that blackberry still has a larget market share...




Keep coming with you're ill informed technical info.

But I'm excited to learn that not only are you an expert in real-estate, sociology, business, city-planning, and more!

You're also a Computer Engineer!!?!

Edit/Update: Well i found the PC Magazine Article that says the Apple Ran Vista the fastest.. So at least he didn't make that up.
The problems with that statement though. I hope people realize that you can buy the same hardware in a "PC" and it'll run vista just as well as the Apple did.. In fact look @ this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220256 almost identical hardware!! (Same CPU/Graphics card) Maybe the hard-drive Brand is slightly different...

1) No, I'm most definitely not a computer engineer -- just an end user who can, with a little reading, figure out the basics of working with a computer and do most of what's needed to keep it in running order. I do, however, need assistance beyond a certain level -- I haven't yet figured out the best way to get my Dell Dimension 4700 P4 running XP to get its old vim and vigor back without losing a bunch of software I've thrown onto it over the years.

2) I think I'm pretty knowledgeable about city planning, urban design, and architecture, but if you've followed me at all, you'd know that mass transit is my main area of interest, with food a close second. I've made sociological observations but am no sociologist, and real estate is all Greek to me. My chief strength, however, is as a writer, with a decidedly promotional bent these days.

3) Whatever it is you are, a meticulous reader is clearly not it, for I'm definitely NOT alesis.

Try again, keeping that last item uppermost in mind.

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MarketSt.. I'll have to SORTOF Apologize.. perhaps it wasn't clear but...

My replies were split between You and Alesis.. The latter half being directed at alesis (computer engineer, supposed master of all trades and knowledge etc)

If YOU read meticulously.. you'll notice that the first quote.. is from your post.. and the replies are thusly targeted at you..

And the second quote.. is from Alesis' post, And the replies are directed at him. (thus i begin the first line of that section with: "Alesis I hope you realize what you're saying there")

Hopefully you have google. Have fun. Here's a start.
http://www.forbes.com/home/technolog..._1221army.html
Wow. What backtracking in your own sentence. Since you can't find your google feature today, here:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/13664...s_of_2007.html
The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year (through 10/25/07) is a Mac. Try that again: The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year--or for that matter, ever--is a Mac. Not a Dell, not a Toshiba, not even an Alienware. The $2419 (plus the price of a copy of Windows Vista, of course) MacBook Pro's PC WorldBench 6 Beta 2 score of 88 beats Gateway's E-265M by a single point, but the MacBook's score is far more impressive simply because Apple couldn't care less whether you run Windows.
Oh you mean the same architecture that microsoft chose to use for the xbox 360 once apple was done with it?
Oh really. Didn't know that windows 95 had all of the benefits of unix when osx came out.
Idiocy. And show me a phone that doesn't get revamped every year. Razrs? Palms? Blackberries? How many palms and blackberries are constantly on the market? Meanwhile, they still can't master the integration of software and hardware. I also love how people are so quick to jump on the "enterprise" bandwagon when vexing the iphone. I don't need an exchange server. I don't need a worthless blackberry or palm browser that makes an abacus look like advanced technology. I don't need my email the second its sent to me-although I now get it through my .me account. And while you tout blackberry's market share, its equally humorous to note how quickly they lost part of it to a new product that has some of the highest customer satisfaction ratings ever. You can google that as well.
It is a hobby I have. I have made simple programs in real basic, I do simple php programming for websites, and I'm currently studying c++ to make a couple of simple iphone programs for my business.

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Oh, I see-now we have to translate your nonsense and direct it towards the appropriate parties, ignore certain parts, and respond to others. Got it. I do enjoy how you keep sounding nuttier in your constant attempts to troll me.

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Yes, please keep showing yourself as the @ss that you are.

In the meantime, please tell me how to code and reprime a neurix2400.

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Thanks, I was busy at work and couldn't google at the moment.. Soo from the article it sounds like the Military is buying some Apple hardware to have a mix.. Nothing along the lines of "switching to apples" which is what you're statement seemed to imply.

Oh and in the very article you linked:
Charlie Miller, a software researcher with Independent Security Evaluators, worries that the Army's diversification plan isn't enough to thwart the bad guys. He sees a two-platform system as a "weakest link" scenario, in which a determined cyber-intruder will seek out the more vulnerable of the two targets. "In the story of the three little pigs, did diversifying their defenses help? Not for the pig in the straw house," he says.
The marketing pitch that Apples are inherently more secure than PCs is also largely a myth, contends Miller, who gained notoriety for remotely hacking the iPhone last August. He points to data gathered by software security firm Secunia, which showed that Apple had to patch nearly five times as many security flaws in its software over the past year as Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ) had to patch in Windows. Apple's Quicktime player alone, he says, was patched 34 times. "I love my Macs, but in terms of security, they're behind the curve, compared to Windows," Miller warns.


I'm not really sure where i'm back tracking... If you could explain that to me.... I'd be happy to address it. As for the article.. The problem and flaw with it, is that both PC laptops and Mac Laptops use identical hardware Thats the reason you can Run Vista on a Mac and OS x on a PC. So any apple that "runs Vista better" is PC that can run Vista at the same speed. The only difference between apple and PC's now is the Operating System (OS X vs Vista/Xp), and the design components of laptops/PCs Cases/displays/keyboards etc..


Well Sortof, http://arstechnica.com/articles/paed...box360-2.ars/1

Read up on it. Then we can talk.



This..... I mean.. Here... just read these two lines

Mac OS X version 10.0 followed in March 2001

[Win 95] was released on August 24, 1995 by Microsoft,

Now really... you couldn't have thought for two seconds about the problems with that comparison.


Phones certainly do go through revisions.. Theres also the thing that multiple manufactures make "blackberries" And yes It was quite interesting to see the Iphone take up/Grow the market share/ penetration of Unified Devices it does have its attractions.. But its no perfect product. Oh well just kinda ignore the whole apple A$$ raping all their early adopters with that pricing stunt too...

And its funny how you Mock the "Enterprise Argument" which is one of the biggest driving forces for PC technology. And then Comment how you are learning to write Iphone Apps for your Business!!!!!!!

Just because YOU don't need an exchange server, just casue YOU don't get time sensitive email doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't..

As for my 'nonsense' I thought it was pretty clear that my reply was split amongst two seperate topics/quotes (similar to how your and my most recent replies were) But since marketstEl didn't seem to notice that.. and thought it was all aimed at him.. I decided to clarify for him...

I'm pretty sure you're making that one up....

Your search - neurix2400 - did not match any documents.


Thats tough to do with google. I'd love for you to enlighten me about what it is!!! Since i obviously don't know