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Old 03-13-2008, 04:14 PM
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1500' tower announced for 18th and Arch...discuss...

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Old 03-13-2008, 04:20 PM
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1500' tower announced for 18th and Arch...discuss...
I just read about it at PhillySkyline.com. Sounds like it's been very well thoughtout. In fact, compared to the recent news of the Girard block proposal at 12th and Market, ACC makes those guys look bush league. It seems like a very professionally thoughtout project on the level with the kind of quality you get in NY or Chicago or other towns with booming skylines...I love finally seeing that here. Only problem, who the he11 would occupy it?
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:23 PM
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Bring it on.

I like the design, even though blue glass has been beaten to death in this city.
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:52 PM
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whoa! That looks spectacular!

Some questions:

The web site you pointed to only gives an animation of the proposed design and after that, a number for "leasing information" as if this things are sure bet! Where did you get the layout picture?

What's with the design on the side of the building? Why the giant "hole"? Is there some older building that the new one expects to built around and thus the hole? Looks like there will be office space around that hole and not just along the main tower-shaft...?

I like the uneven hexagonal design of the main tower very much...!

I also like that they're thinking big and tall...would be awesome to see another tower beat out Comcast as the city's tallest!!

The "spire" at the very top...is that going to be for wind turbine use, similar to the proposal at "Freedom Tower" in NYC? If the height is to be maintained, that is high enough to reap some good wind energy out of this and make the building more "green."

Any other details of the mixed uses of this thang? A more detailed writeup somewhere?

As far as tenants, I'm not worried. If you can build a trophy tower, and lord knows this thing won't be actually be ready for move-in until perhaps 2015, by which time the city hopefully has done away with not just the gross receipts tax but actually reformed the overall taxes in order to make the city an attractive relocation hub for businesses, you can get companies to take up space in ACC. As it is, current Class A vancancy rate in CC hovers around a very low 9%, which is good and hopefully it spurs more such high-flying development proposals.

Finally, I can dream about something like this getting built in Philly, can't I?
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YES!! This freaking rocks!!! I think Nutter is going to throw his full weight behind it to make it happen! Every sentence in this post is going to have at least one exclamation mark! The office market in Philadelphia is plenty tight, so demand shouldn't be a problem!! If you build it they will come!!!!
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Bring it on.

I like the design, even though blue glass has been beaten to death in this city.
Actually, I like the idea of refinishing the exteriors of surrounding buildings with blond wood, just like the model. It would be like the whole city going IKEA.
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This can't be serious. Is there anything *close* to the market for this kind of office space?
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This can't be serious. Is there anything *close* to the market for this kind of office space?

Perhaps it's the "Field of Dreams" scenario--Build it and they will come?
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B. Love certainly seems to be taking it seriously over at PhillySkyline. The only obstacle as he sees it is good ol' Darrell Clarke's height restriction, enacted after the Barnes brouhaha. But on the positive side it sounds like the Logan Square Neighbors Assn. is generally supportive and also the developer knows how to engage the surrounding neighbors.

This would be absolutely awesome, and an ideal use for this lot. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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