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Old 05-15-2008, 03:39 PM
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I don't think it's sad at all. Sure, dressing up is fun and all, but we have places to do that, namely Bump, Valanni, the new Tria, XIX, etc.
Of the four places you mentioned, only one is a gay bar (though Valanni and Tria are both very gay friendly, not least because of the orientations of the male servers). If another "trendy" lounge or two opened, it would only slightly tilt the balance. And in this case, trendy just really means clean, well-appointed, and having somewhat contemporary design.
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Thats hardly an element of the gay community (hanging in the streets).
Damn, man, you need to take your gaydar in for recalibration! I've gotten scorched by the flames as I walk past the "Homo Hut" at times, and there aren't any white boys doing the flaming.

Have you ever seen the movie Paris Is Burning? You, especially, need education in this strata of gay America. No, not everything these kids do is pretty -- you're treated to an incident of shoplifting in the film -- but it's clear that these aren't dangerous thugs but rather lost children who have little to affirm themselves save one another. Would you rather they aped 50 Cent than Manolo Blahnik?
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Old 05-15-2008, 03:47 PM
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Maybe this marks me as "un-Philadelphian" but I do think that nightlife has a certain aspect of presentation: you dress it up bit and try look cute. Obviously, there's a place for low-key places like Locust Bar, but I do think it's a rather sad comment on the city's scene that the main gay bar (and Woody's is pretty much universally acknowledged as such) is such a dump. I am embarrassed to bring out of town friends there and usually opt for Bump or Valanni instead, or else skip the Gayborhood entirely. I also think the connection between well dressed/trendy and shallow/inauthentic is a little too deeply etched in this city. Likewise, dirty isn't always gritty.
To be honest, thunda, while you never look less than cute, I've never classed you with the fashion plates.

I think I understand what you're getting at and will return to the subject when there's time, but I've got a train to catch.
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:16 PM
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To be honest, thunda, while you never look less than cute, I've never classed you with the fashion plates.

I think I understand what you're getting at and will return to the subject when there's time, but I've got a train to catch.
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No, I have neither the money nor the temperament to truly be a fashionista, but I do try to wear flattering cuts, colors, and patterns, and coordinate, etc. But I'm not really talking about people who only leave the house when every article of clothing has an Italian name. I just mean putting a bit of effort into one's appearance - like, enough not to be a schlub.
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So you're racist in addition to self-loathing. Charming. A wonderful addition to PB.
I'm missing something here, just WHAT was "racist" in sparky's comment?
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Thats hardly an element of the gay community (hanging in the streets). Have you been to other cities? It no wonder why we're always knocked down...its because of the messes hanging on 13th. And I got a question for ya? Why are they all black?...Cant they find something else to do, instead of having the cops baricade the street and force people off with batons. Its actually scary, and if they wanna act a fool and jump in front of cars and act like animals, then they can stay there...because they aint going anywhere in life. As for me, I'll leave places like woodys and key west to the losers. peace


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EC you look AMAZING in that little pink hat and matchin scarf!!! Where'd you get em??
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I'm missing something here, just WHAT was "racist" in sparky's comment?
Seriously? Maybe, just perhaps, that he's blaming Philly's "always [being] knocked down" on a bunch of "losers" who are "all black?" Because he's calling them "hardly an element of the gay community" because he thinks they "act like animals?" I'm not sure what else you could call it besides racist.
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Seriously? Maybe, just perhaps, that he's blaming Philly's "always [being] knocked down" on a bunch of "losers" who are "all black?" Because he's calling them "hardly an element of the gay community" because he thinks they "act like animals?" I'm not sure what else you could call it besides racist.
Sounds to me that if you act like some kind of idiot, and follow the crowds of other idiots, you get labelled accordingly, whatever color you are.
Personally if I observed a bunch of rowdy people on the street, I'd look down on them because I don't condone that sort of behavior. Furthermore, if the people repeatedly involved in such behavior, as sparky mentioned, were always black, I'd include that fact, but I hardly think that's being racist. It's merely being descriptive.
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What's wrong with a group of people congregating in the street outside an entertainment venue after an event? Are college students looked down upon when they take over the streets of Center City for their annual graduation bar crawl? What about Eagles fans after a sporting event? People like to socialize, especially young people. Rather than judging kids for being kids, I think the larger concern is the obvious lack of a social outlet for gay teens aptly demostrated by their presence on the streets of the Gayborhood. The scene on 13th Street outside of Okay Pizza is no different than mall rats hanging out at King of Prussia or high school kids hanging out at Denny's at 1am.
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