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Old 08-15-2006, 12:32 AM
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so will anyone be going to this event?

Look for me. I'll be the one wearing the Jacket from K-mart. The slacks from Burlington Coat Factory. Tie from Ross'. Cologne from a guy in a white robe on Market Street. Shoes from....well.....you know. And mouthwash from the Funk-o-mart.
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Old 08-15-2006, 12:43 AM
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I think all of Center City needs better "labeling"

ala Atlantic City.

SO people know exactly where stuff is. Love what the CCD has done with signage but it needs to be expanded for retail.

Again, we can't make retail form where we want it...but we can provide the conditions. Something as easy as mailing out PPA smartcard to shoppers (for return visits)

The Gallery just needs to increase rent.
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Old 08-15-2006, 02:02 AM
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Which, if any, of those 4 steps did San Francisco follow? There's homeless everywhere, there's a row of strip clubs and porn theatres on Market St, and their outdoor art is ... um, i don't remember seeing any.
Mon Dieu, mon ami, SVP: San Francisco is a worrrrrrrrrrrrlld class city (repeat it enough times and you will believe it too !) Actually all you need to do to repeat the San Francisco experience is give people something they can't buy elsewhere......like AstroGlide. (and you missed the giant Buried Arrow on the Embarcadero, so there ....)

This thread is starting to sound a lot like the macy*s one ( albeit w/ hors d'oeuvres....I guess this one is catered better): to summarize what was pointed out over there:

SF, Seattle, Chi-town and NYC draw a lot of tourists who come w/ certain expectations;

Asian $$ + no bigger cities around > SF + Seattle = upscale
European$$ + no bigger cities around > Chi + NYC = upscale shopping
American $$ + really big city 90 miles away > Phil = Phillyducks + CityBlue x 7


In other words, they come to the former expecting to shop, they come to the latter expecting to see the Liberty Bell......and in both cases they get what they came for.


And, though it may not mean much, your oodles-and-oddles btter off than some place like Detroit.
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Blah blah SF is a worrrrrrrrrrrrld class city blah blah...
San Francisco is no more a world class city than Philadelphia; if you think otherwise you've either A) never been to either one or B) are delusional. The two cities are very similar.

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Philadelphia has one thing most cities do not.

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Old 08-15-2006, 09:47 AM
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You know, I have been to San Francisco and New York any number of times, and except for the weather, which I could take or leave--mostly leave, SF is no better than here, and our food is better! NYC, well, 'nuff said about that place. Have been to Boston/Cambridge as well. So what. Nice city. Europe, on the other hand...that's a different story.

SF has bougainvillea and wild anise growing by the side of the road, it helps to cover some of the trash better. They also have a huge homeless problem. It is easier to be homeless and live in the streets there when it doesn't get as cold or as hot as it does here. They also still have a granola, hippy-dippy vibe going on. Fun to visit, hard to live in for any extended time. Especially for a dyed-in-the-wool East Coaster.

My point...like W.C.Fields said, Philadelphia isn't as bad as Philadelphians say it is. I think, IMHO, we need to raise our expectations, of ourselves and especially our elected representatives.
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Or is it low self-esteem...?
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San Francisco is no more a world class city than Philadelphia; if you think otherwise you've either A) never been to either one or B) are delusional. The two cities are very similar.
I've never been to SF but it is absolutely regarded as a world class city.Philly is not. S.F's natural setting alone puts into a different stratosphere than Philadelphia.

Crunching some numbers these cities are nothing alike. Not to come down too hard on Philadelphia but the numbers simply do not back up your statement that SF and Philly are equals.

Percentage of residents with a bachelor degree or higher
SF 45%
Philly 17%

Median household income( 2000)
SF $51,000
Philly $30,000

Percentage of residents at or below the poverty level
SF 12%
Philly 23%

This one is staggering. Average house in SF is worth $396,000. Philadelphia median house is worth $59,000.

I would say maybe the downtowns are more comparable and I believe SF still has a pretty good edge but as far as overall cities this is not the city to compare Philadelphia to.
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I've never been to SF but it is absolutely regarded as a world class city.Philly is not. S.F's natural setting alone puts into a different stratosphere than Philadelphia.

Crunching some numbers these cities are nothing alike. Not to come down too hard on Philadelphia but the numbers simply do not back up your statement that SF and Philly are equals.

Percentage of residents with a bachelor degree or higher
SF 45%
Philly 17%

Median household income( 2000)
SF $51,000
Philly $30,000

Percentage of residents at or below the poverty level
SF 12%
Philly 23%

This one is staggering. Average house in SF is worth $396,000. Philadelphia median house is worth $59,000.

I would say maybe the downtowns are more comparable and I believe SF still has a pretty good edge but as far as overall cities this is not the city to compare Philadelphia to.

Probably why most people RENT in SF, rather than own.
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