so from what i understood, the original gayborhood stretched all th e way down to 11th and pine. now this new midtown leaves us out! where do i live now?? :*(

Well. How about a wanna-be-gay-borhood? Or, better yet, bi-borhood?

Reminds me of the Holiday Inn around 13th and Walnut, that's been calling itself "midtown" forever .... it's like they're trying to be manhatten :what_is_:



Holiday Inn Express Midtown

(215) 735-9300
www.ichotelsgroup.com


1305 Walnut St
Philadelphia, PA 19107

Best name I have heard yet!

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How about Enchanted Village. LOL

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Can’t we all just get a lawn?

Or Fruit Orchard?

Those of us who know probably will continue to call it whatever we've been calling it...but to a lot of those who don't, "13th Street" carries with it a disreputable association. The street is not as seedy as it used to be -- that's a fact, even with the Full Moon Saloon still in business and the hustlers still hanging out from time to time.

"The Gayborhood" overlaps with but does not include the entire stretch of 13th Street in question. "WashWest," as noted earlier, also does not include all of this stretch of 13th Street, and it also describes a much larger area than either "Midtown Village" or "the Gayborhood."

So...are you suggesting that those who don't know should continue to labor under the impression that this area is still dangerous? And though a name change does not alter an underlying reality (would a rose by any other name...), sometimes if the reality changes, the name still retains the old associations. Hence this effort.

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I see what you're saying here, but I still think that this supposed renaming of an area is contrived and artificial. However, I guess you could say the same thing about the namings of Queen Village, Bella Vista, University City, and probably Old City (which is still sometimes spelled "Olde" ... ick). In any case, the term "Midtown" is strongly idenitified with Manhattan, and despite Steven Starr's best efforts, Philadelphians are not going to refer to any part of Center City with it. People will call the area 13th St, Gayborhood, WashWest, or whatever, but "Midtown Village" will be tossed into the same bin as "B3."

There are drug dealers and transvestite hookers. Personally, I consider that shady.

Let's just say that Saturday was a beautiful day for a jog along East River Drive