The Burb Crime Thread

[preesi]

Suspect Shot in Valley Forge National Park

by Bob Monek

VALLEY FORGE NATIONAL PARK, Pa. - June 23, 2007 - Police shot and wounded a man in Valley Forge National Park tonight.
Authorities in Chester County said the incident occurred around 7:30 p.m. near the General Wayne Statue on Outer Line Road and Baptist Road. Investigators have not said what provoked the shooting.
The wounded man was flown to the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania.
His condition has not been released.
(Copyright 2007 by Action News and 6abc. All Rights Reserved.)

[John Galt]

Couple of incidents to report:

Home invasion in Havertown Thursday night
http://cbs3.com/topstories/Havertown....2.564246.html

Shots fired at Villanova after school dance
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news..._reported.html

[kellyc]

Carjacking Wednesday night in Havertown, but they caught the guys.

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=5751555

[random]

Originally Posted by kellyc

Carjacking Wednesday night in Havertown, but they caught the guys.

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=5751555

The burbanites need to be less stingy with sharing state resources to try to resolve what is really a regional problem. Crime in philly is more than a philly issue. Philly is stuck with dealing with too large a share of the region's problems and trouble makers.

For as long as the "counties" continue to refuse to try to work together to send resources to philly to resolve some of the issues (more cops, more DAs more prison space, more resources for housing, supportive services and crime prevention . . .), the trouble makers from philly will continue to follow you home.

The fact that there are fewer criminals in the burbs doesn't mean the criminals have disappeared. The burbs have done a fine job of keeping all the trash in philly. It's starting to overflow.

[Hospitalitygirl]

Originally Posted by random

The burbanites need to be less stingy with sharing state resources to try to resolve what is really a regional problem. Crime in philly is more than a philly issue. Philly is stuck with dealing with too large a share of the region's problems and trouble makers.

For as long as the "counties" continue to refuse to try to work together to send resources to philly to resolve some of the issues (more cops, more DAs more prison space, more resources for housing, supportive services and crime prevention . . .), the trouble makers from philly will continue to follow you home.

The fact that there are fewer criminals in the burbs doesn't mean the criminals have disappeared. The burbs have done a fine job of keeping all the trash in philly. It's starting to overflow.

Good points. Also, there is no giant fence separating the City from the suburbs, much as everyone would like to think there is.

[emckelvy]

Perhaps the arrest of this carjacking ring that targeted people in nearby suburbs will help to show that city and suburban law enforcement need to work together more often in fighting crime.

[jogger]

Originally Posted by random

The burbanites need to be less stingy with sharing state resources to try to resolve what is really a regional problem. Crime in philly is more than a philly issue. Philly is stuck with dealing with too large a share of the region's problems and trouble makers.

For as long as the "counties" continue to refuse to try to work together to send resources to philly to resolve some of the issues (more cops, more DAs more prison space, more resources for housing, supportive services and crime prevention . . .), the trouble makers from philly will continue to follow you home.

The fact that there are fewer criminals in the burbs doesn't mean the criminals have disappeared. The burbs have done a fine job of keeping all the trash in philly. It's starting to overflow.

Man your nuts. Lets fix up and rehab all the housing in the city thats possible, but don't touch Holmesburg prison or build another one in Joe blows neighborhood. Get real. Either make space to lock up YOUR problem or have the mayors scream for more stringent penelties for crimes with guns. Like actually hurting the SOBs.
Get rid of their trigger fingers at the least. As far as the asswipes comitting crimes out in the burbs, that's small change. Most of the idiots do their crap close to home for a quick escape.

[Nosy reporter]

It happens and it leads to some arrests.

Here's how it occurs for a couple crimes:

Bank robberies: FBI puts out regional alerts on the robberies, sharing details and photos of the robbers taken by surveillance cameras in the banks.

Burglaries: When a burglar gets out of a city prison, the commander of the city police district in which the guy lives gets a notice. If burglaries start up in that district after a certain release, the cops know to keep an eye on the guy. If the district abuts a suburban jurisdiction, the smart captains alert the cops in that town and also ask if the town has seen an upsurge in burglaries.

A lot of suburban towns have mutual aid pacts for fires, crime and other emergencies. Don't know if Philly has formalized any such agreements with suburban towns. Anybody out there know?

[random]

Originally Posted by jogger

Man your nuts. Lets fix up and rehab all the housing in the city thats possible . . . .

OK, let's do that. Who is going to pay for it? All the poor people the state shoehorned into philly?

I think you're being shortsighted. To help you see things more clearly I'm going to get the folks who pushed the Mt. Laurel cases in NJ to get similar cases moving in PA. That way the burbs get their "fair share" of low income residents in their communities. Philly will export enough poor residents such that it's overall social services related burden decreases sufficiently that we no longer need any state money. Then the burbanites can stop complaining about philly. Looks like a "win win" from here.