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Old 06-17-2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fietserjim View Post
Bikes do not belong on sidewalks, unless they are being walked, but the real enemy is not the "idiot" bikers, but the four-wheeled false idols clogging up our roads and fouling the air.
share the road, share the rules. stop at stop signs AND red lights, no turn on reds, use signals, etc. if you don't follow these rules you are an "idiot" biker. oh, and i also think it's retarded that hardly anyone wears their helmet.

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While I would support a bike share program in general, I think it is kind of pointless given the hostile environment that bikes face on the streets. Creating a reasonably safe environment for bikes requires more than painting some meaningless white lines in the road and putting up a few "share the road" signs. It requires closing lanes and streets to automobile traffic, creating separate bike paths, away from cars and pedestrians wherever possible, educating drivers on their duties to yield to bikes, backed with serious penalties and presumptions when cars hit bikes. I question the political will to do any of this in light of the exalted position which cars hold in this society.
i agree that we should have separated bike lanes here in philly, but cyclists should also be penalized when they don't follow the rules (and i see more cyclists going through red lights than cars on a daily basis). cyclists ALSO need to be better educated on these rules which would make them safer from cars; who doesn't want that? bicycles are vehicles too, and they can cause damage to more than just pedestrians.

edit i forgot to mention my opinion on bike sharing in philly... i think it's a great idea, as long as what i said above is also taught to members and there are more separate bike lanes created - which will be hard, especially in center city.

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