It sounds like a lot of the Negadelphians are pointing out the same things they all said about Franklin Square before it was renovated. That seems to be a success and it's relatively detached from the city. Dilworth Plaza is a transportation hub for every subway and trolley line, it's the base of the central business district and the Avenue of the Arts, and it's overlooked by residents in several condos and apartment buildings. It's a haven for homeless because nobody spends any time there. Creating a legitimate human presence can be the best security. A number of other cities have established some sort of Screen-on-the-Green outdoor movie park which has been extremely successful. Having an ice skating rink right beside it is an added bonus to secure activity all year long. This brings evening life to the most significant intersection in the city and has the potential to even bring more business to perhaps occupy the barren courtyard of City Hall.

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The idealistic are no longer concerned with influencing public opinion and creating a free world of responsible and ethical social choices, but rather imposing opinion through legislation, mandating these ethics, and outlawing choice in what the loudest sample finds offensive.

Ban the Bans. It's a slippery slope between Idealism and Fascism.