n4100: There's no need to apologize. I wasn't trying to make you feel bad There are just a lot of rants/raves around here when people try to define the boundaries of different areas. Everyone seems to have different opinions about them all.

merkin: I know the places I mentioned aren't really Brewerytown per se, but a lot of people from B-town do seem to frequent them, as you said, so I thought it was worth mentioning.

Also, since you just bought another house up there--what are the places along Girard going for these days? I used to live at 29th & Ogden and wonder how much the prices have gone up over the last few years. Just curious.