Originally Posted by gray67

The bar used to be Cheese's and then Fat Edna's. Both bars were notorious for catering to loud rowdy patrons who commonly brawled and dealt drugs. It was not a nice friendly "pub".

As for the "niceness" of a new bar or pub, probably half the houses on Vassar are rentals. More and more of Dawson is turning into rentals. Each rental brings with it between two and four cars parking in an already congested area. The guy who's building Terrace Court wants to add even MORE cars in condo units that are basically designed to be bought as rentals. If you put a nice "pub" in the area and plan on drawing from outside the immediate 4 block neighborhood, people will drive to the place and take up spots, denying residents parking near their homes.

Why do you want another pub/bar? There are (within a 6 block radius) at least four to six different bars. Main Street is a short walk away and there are loads of bars. At what point do you people want to just turn the area into one big frat house? If you don't want families living in the area and you don't want property values to go up and you don't mind the area turning into an even bigger dump cause of all the tranient residents who don't care about anything except where's the nearest beer, then just put a sign up at the entrance to Main Street saying so.