I fully agree with ending gluttony. It's something that could be addressed by people eating until they're full (first they'd have to recognize that) instead of just eating what's infront of them (the servings at crap restaurants tend to be too large, at fancy ones too small).

However, assuming that giving the grain to people instead of to livestock is a sham. First off, people are designed to eat meat. Not the best at it, but look at our teeth, and the history of mankind. We've generally adapted from hunter/gatherers, not growers/gatherers.

And I don't believe it's modern society, I think it's people in general, going way back when to the first ever turf war. I'm pretty sure it wasn't necessary, especially because the planet has relatively stayed the same and there were far, many many less people to inhabit said space.

How about we call a truce. I'll do what I can to protect the planet and resources, you do what you do, I won't ask you to eat meat, you don't ask me to stop. Last time I checked, adults- through the modern marvel of human socialbility, can comprimise. Now it's not a perfect compromise, but the more you bother me, the more likely I'm going to pick you for the first person to eat if/when the situation arises that I'm so despaired.

Under your ideals, is it wrong to breast feed a baby? Since milk is from an animal, and all animal products are inherently flawed, is it bad to feed baby's a mother's milk, I wonder. Well, since breast feeding is natural, does that imply vegans may be super well intended, but for the most part- full of it- I question. How would other mammals feed their young if not with milk? Should we all become "natural hunters", in the terms of wolves, orcas, eagles, etc? If so, can we please bring back canabilism and restructure human society?

Cheers,
I'm serious, I'm always serious when it involves my meat. this meat or that meat... I can spout forth sape diaherra just as well as anyone, except for that fake doctor... I'll get you yet...

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